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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5521 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
I scanned this thread quickly for the word "infrastructure" but couldn't find it. Yet it is so important that we address its dire condition. I wonder if BHO will mirror FDR by mounting a dual attack on unemployment and our weakening infrastructure. Could there be ghosts of WPA and CCC lurking just around the corner?
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5521 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
Buz writes:
But does it? No POTUS is going to favor Israel's enemies. And yet in one way he should. I still think a Palestinian state is the key to peace in the Middle East, and that Israel needs to give up lots and lots of kitty litter to achieve it. BHO would score big with me if he pushed Israel to accept a Palestinian state, and to share Jerusalem with all of its historically valid occupants. (Neither side of this issue is free of terrorists.) Rahm Emanuel fit's the Obama ticket nicely. He's tough, feisty, intelligent, efficient and conveniently for Obama, a Jew. This sends a deceptive message to Israel and the world that Obama will not undermine Israel by favoring their enemies. ”FTF I can see Lower Slobovia from my house.
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5521 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
NosyNed writes:
And who qualified you to make that judgment? You, Buz, are not in any way qualified to comment on what Jesus was like. ”FTF I can see Lower Slobovia from my house.
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5521 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
NosyNed writes:
You may think you're "prepared," but I ask again: How are YOU qualified to make those moral judgments? I have made enough observations of your posts to conclude that you are as least as ignorant, fearful, and hateful as Buz is. I am prepared to make moral judgments. ”FTF I can see Lower Slobovia from my house.
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5521 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
kuresu writes:
Let me ask you this: Do you really think it was fair for NosyNed to say in Message 129:
If so, what qualifies you to make that judgement? Hypocrisy, much? quote:If you do then we are standing on different planets. How would you like it if someone said: "You, kuresu, are not in any way qualified to comment on what Jesus was like." That would be like saying: You, kuresu, are not in any way qualified to comment on what Bugs Bunny was like." ”FTF I can see Lower Slobovia from my house.
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5521 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
Rahvin writes:
I think you have massively misunderstood me. I don't think you understand the function of dialectics and the antithesis. You dabble only the surface of a deep philosophical lake. Well, snorkel on down here and learn something about how to examine all sides of an issue. There's much more to it than a bunch of stupid hysteria about bigotry.
What qualifications are necessary to make moral judgments? I'm perfectly able to determine that racism, religious intolerance, [removed for survival purposes] and other flavors of bigotry are immoral, in the same way I can determine that murder, theft, rape, and other actions are immoral...Buz is a bigot. Plain and simple. After all, I mock people who make irrational statements, and have an extreme distaste for all religion in general and Christianity in particular.
I don't suppose you would understand that I do the very same thing. ”FTF I can see Lower Slobovia from my house.
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5521 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
kuresu writes:
Because I am amoral? Can you to imagine a judgment being made without invoking morality? I can. So, what makes you qualified to make moral judgements about Ned (or anyone)? ”FTF I can see Lower Slobovia from my house.
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5521 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
kuresu writes:
All moral judgments are fueled by an rational belief in mutual exclusion. A philosopher avoids this mistake, per Will Durant: "The first lesson of philosophy is that we may all be mistaken." That's an interesting position to take. This suggests that any moral judgement, then, is incapable of being rendered. How can you judge morality without morals? ”FTF I can see Lower Slobovia from my house.
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5521 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
FliesOnly writes:
You must have me confused with someone who believes that Jesus was the Son of God. However, I do admire both Jesus and Bugs for their durability in Hollywood. So Jesus is a fictitious cartoon character. Boy, it certainly is nice to hear a "christian" finally admit it. ”FTF I can see Lower Slobovia from my house.
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5521 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
Buz writes:
Decriminalizing marijuana, I should think. The War On Drugs can continue, but he would do the states a big favor by decriminalizing pot. Out here in the Pacific Northwest there is a very lively agriculture of marijuana. I've heard of tax revenue estimates for the state of Washington from the legalization and sales of marijuana to be so high it could fund the entire state's educational system. NORML makes bigger claims than this. For the sake of the desperately needed tax revenue, and for the sake of relief in law enforcement, courts and penal institutions, I predict BHO/Congress will see the green side of this issue and act accordingly. What can we expect to eventually become reality according to the agenda of the new far left Obama and Congress: And smoking marijuana to get high is not the only use of hemp. There could be a hemp agriculture and industry to as replace wood fiber in paper pulping, and to use it for a variety of other things, including biofuels. So much fuss over a simple weed, and one that could be so profitable for all concerned. ”FTF I can see Lower Slobovia from my house.
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5521 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
Buz writes:
Yeah, those welfare sucking low lifes! Let's all get drunk and go out and kick the crap out of 'em! Fosdick I'm 73 and well remember the days in the US when pot users were few and far between, usually illegal or transient Mexicans, bums and the lowest class non-productive citizens. Buz, at your age you ought to read this article that DA posted in Message 217. For the sake of your heath and your mental longevity, old man, maybe you ought to go out and get hold of some weed.
Dull potheads are irrational and often dangerous, too often problematic to any culture of civilization.
I saw a couple of potheads on the street the other day. They attacked an old lady, beat her up and took her purse, then they smashed in the windows of the hardware store and stomped a cat. Dangerous fuckers! ”FTF I can see Lower Slobovia from my house.
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5521 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
Buz writes: You have it right, Percy. New Testament Christianity is the only religion I know of that is not dangerous. The teachings of Jesus and his apostles bear that out. That citizens of Protestant Christian US have been the least oppressed by their own governments bears that out as well. Buz, Here’s an argument for why New Testament Christianity is dangerous, because its modern form arrived as Calvinism. Calvinism, according to Max Weber, is at the heart of acquisitive capitalism, the greedy and corruptive kind we have today. If you get rich that means you are one of the electi, chosen by God to succeed, according to Calvinism. And look at where that electi principle has taken us today: to the dire straits of economic chaos. So, I go along with Weber and blame New Testament Christianity for turning healthy capitalism into acquisitive capitalismthe kind that will do us in. As such, it's dangerous. I can see Lower Slobovia from my house.
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5521 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
Buz writes:
Well, that's my point: the of intent of NT Christianity was corrupted by Calvinism. Jesus would never have approved of it; NT Christianity was supposed to follow his teachings and not encourage the sanctioning of acquisitive capitalism. The electi principle of Calvinism overthrew the principe of a camel passing through the eye of a needle. Didn't it? Where does the NT say that the rich will inherit the earth? Fosdick, this is a strawman. It is not Biblical NT Christianity. Jesus or his apostles never promised worldly riches to anyone for being a Christian. It was the opposite. He said his followers would be hated of the world and would suffer persecution for their faith. This is why I think Obama needs to keep his distance from modern Christianity, while retaining the true message of Jesus, which is not at all favorable to the money changers. I can see Lower Slobovia from my house.
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