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Jazzns
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Message 56 of 125 (349093)
09-14-2006 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Taz
09-14-2006 12:36 PM


I think you guys are giving RR a hard time.
I am straight, I am supportive of homosexuals right to marry, but I have a severe distaste for the practices of homosexuals. I don't think I qualify as a homophobe anymore than a homosexual who has a severe distaste for my relationship with my wife can be called a heterophobe.
RR is simply rejecting the strenghth of what the words imply. In his situation it looks quite convincingly that there is no "fear" to warrent the term homophobia.
In RR's case he goes a little further to openly condem the practice. This still does not mean that he fears it. It is simply part of his religious beliefs.
In general I think people give RR a hard time. It seems like most of the time he is grouped with some of the more extreme fundy types when in actuality he is just an average Christian guy.

Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

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Jazzns
Member (Idle past 3939 days)
Posts: 2657
From: A Better America
Joined: 07-23-2004


Message 58 of 125 (349105)
09-14-2006 5:33 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by ringo
09-14-2006 5:03 PM


I guess the problem for me is that there is more baggage that comes along with that word than just "irrational distaste". Homophobe then potentially describes a range from people like me who just don't like it to a band of "good ol'e boys" who like to drag gay guys tied behind pickup trucks.
I mean, even my severe distate may be irrational. I certainly have never tried to be homosexual so I have no logical basis for rejecting it. Is that not also an irrational aversion?
I also reject the concept that a position against homosexual marriage necessitates that someone is a homophobe. I certainly do {NOT} hold such a position but it seems to me that one could and still not be homophobic as they may also hold similar political views against government institutionalization of interpersonal relationships such as polygamy, beastiality, etc.
I guess what I am saying is, who is the arbiter of what is irrational? It certainly is not me nor is it based on the proclamations of RR's antagonists so far on this board.
Edited by Jazzns, : Forgot to add NOT above.

Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

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