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Author Topic:   for the record (re: guns thread)
berberry
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Message 63 of 305 (399363)
05-05-2007 6:59 AM
Reply to: Message 48 by Nuggin
05-04-2007 7:12 PM


Re: On why own guns.
Nuggin writes:
quote:
So, you advocating that we attempt to achieve something like "2 guns per person" is not exactly the best plan to reduce gun deaths, is it?
Your point has already been proven, although most people seem to have forgotten. Perhaps someone should do a bit of research about the old American West.

W.W.E.D.?

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berberry
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Message 151 of 305 (399673)
05-07-2007 10:16 AM
Reply to: Message 137 by Jon
05-06-2007 11:25 PM


Jon writes:
quote:
I have yet to hear of anyone blaming cars when they lose loved ones in DUI accidents.
If you're going to draw that analogy perhaps you should answer this question: why not require licenses and registration to own and/or operate guns the same way we do for cars and driving?

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berberry
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Message 153 of 305 (399682)
05-07-2007 11:29 AM
Reply to: Message 152 by jar
05-07-2007 11:05 AM


Well, yeah Jar, I've heard that argument before. But you can't justifiably compare cars to guns to make your case then cry "rights vs. privileges" just because your analogy wss carried further than you intended.
Free speech is a constitutionally-protected right, too, but in some cases you need a permit to exercise it.

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berberry
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Message 157 of 305 (399714)
05-07-2007 2:57 PM
Reply to: Message 154 by jar
05-07-2007 11:46 AM


jar writes me:
quote:
Not quite true.
I think it's true but it's another poor analogy. I don't see anything else to disagree with in your post. My main point was that you can't use the car / gun comparison on one hand and reject it on another.
Jon seemed to be saying that because it makes no sense to blame a car for an accident that was obviously caused by a drunk driver, it likewise makes no sense to blame a gun for a murder that was committed by a cold-blooded killer. I'm saying that the analogy is so misleading as to constitute sophistry. There are a number of reasons why, the most important of which we haven't even hinted at.

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