peer reviewed paper: WTC downed via demolitions

The video does raise questions, some less important then others. Things that the administration (I feel) must do to put to rest conspiracy theories is to:
-Explain why at least 9 of the "hijackers" are still alive.
-release the video of the plane hitting the pentagon.
-Launch an investigation as to what happened to the 167 billion in gold stored under WTC 5.
-Give the flight number and passanger list that was reported as flight 93 that landed.
-Hand over the black boxes to an unbiased third party to determine what happened on the flights.The administration won't do these things because they have something to hide, what exactly, we may never know.

That just happened to exactly coincide with the planes hitting the towers?Coordination of demolition work with the planes crashes would be very difficult to accomplish with planning, so now you are saying it's an accident?Or the hand of Allah?Really.

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no, no. this is a stretch. but what if the demolition was for insurance reasons, money stuff, and they used the attacks to cover the demolition. like hiring a hitman to kill your wife so you can collect. not to mention the convenience of having almost everyone in the country supporting any move you make.like i said a long time ago. someone burned the reichstag. they can't prove it was hitler, but it sure is fishy.

These WTC conspiracy flicks are just more crap. What is really sad is that there is anyone out there that even wastes any time wondering about them. The ones on the planes that hit the WTC, flight 93 or on the plane that crashed into the Pentagon are daid. What's to explain? That was done in 2001 if you were around then. In addition, my brother was on the very scene and in the very area where the plane hit. Why? The depository was under WTC 4 not WTC 5. And the bullion and other valuables stored there were held up for about 7 weeks, but recovered and moved back in 2001. See the news report of that here. The flight number and manifest was given. It was flight 93. All that happened is that in the commotion a wrong report was issued. Happened just recently in the mine disaster. Folk trapped were reported as alive but later found they were already dead. The black boxes have been examined from asshole to appetite. The only folk that haven't examined any of the evidence are the nutjobs like the producers of that video.

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The ones on the planes that hit the WTC, flight 93 or on the plane that crashed into the Pentagon are daid. What's to explain?
  —jar

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Um...what? First link on a google search returned this, imagine if I had actually looked hard for the information. Sheesh. BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Hijack 'suspects' alive and wellSo yes, some of the hijackers are still alive. There are reports that 9 of the 19 have turned up alive. Hmmm, if the government is willing to flat out lie about that, what else might they be willing to lie about.

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That was done in 2001 if you were around then. In addition, my brother was on the very scene and in the very area where the plane hit.
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You're joking, right? There were 5 frames released, none of them showing a plane! If you can find video of the plane hitting, please post it, I would love to clear up all of the controversy. [quote=jar]Why? The depository was under WTC 4 not WTC 5. And the bullion and other valuables stored there were held up for about 7 weeks, but recovered and moved back in 2001. See the news report of that here.[quote] The deposotory was said to have been over 150 billion dollars. Roughly 190 million was returned. I have to find the article that had how much was stored, but there were billions that went missing.

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The flight number and manifest was given. It was flight 93. All that happened is that in the commotion a wrong report was issued. Happened just recently in the mine disaster. Folk trapped were reported as alive but later found they were already dead.
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Aaaaand, if you run the serial number for that flight it is still listed as, are you ready for this, VALID! While the flights that hit WTC 1 and 2 are listed as....DESTROYED.

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The black boxes have been examined from asshole to appetite. The only folk that haven't examined any of the evidence are the nutjobs like the producers of that video.
  —jar

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Please supply a link to this, as all evidence I have read said that the boxes were never found/destroyed. Even though eyewitnesses said the FBI found all of them.Now, if you would actually watch the video you would realize that while you may not be able to agree with all the points, you would be able to agree that there are some questions that need answering.

I did watch the video and it's crap.And as I said, my brother was on the scene at the Pentagon. If he had not been late for work that moring he would have been one of those in exactly the spot the plane hit. As it was he was one of the ones that helped remove his friends and the others killed that day.Hey, if stuff like this floats your boat then by all means carry on. But don't be surprised when the rest of us laugh at such stories.

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Okay, Jar...and that is a response to what that I posted?Please, can you address what I said?-The hijackers are alive.
-gold is missing.
-black boxes were not found
-flights for 93 and the one that hit the pentagon are still listed as valid.If your opinion is "Things happened exactly as I was told they did, and no ammount of evidence to the contrary will change my belief" then why are you responding at all?What kind of proof would change your mind?Why aren't the questions in the video being addressed? Your answer is a resounding and very unpersuasive and umimpressive "It's crap."

Because they are a mixture of wild speculation and really stupid quesstions. For example, the nonsense about hijackers being alive. Anyone on any of the four planes is daid. They ain't alive.The Pentagon WAS hit by a plane. There's nothing there to investigate.The missing gold is another non-story.It's just a silly video, laughable. No, my opinion is based on the evidence I've seen. And that evidence pretty much explains everything seen. I was one of many folk that fought a fire in a rag wharehouse back in the 50's and also another in a tanning factory and I've seen what high heat can do to structures.There is simply no reason to look beyond what is already known.

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There is simply no reason to look beyond what is already known.
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if you really believe that, then there is absolutely nothing more to talk about. because in this day and age if you can't find the time to question...you are already dead.as far as the loose change video...I have problem with a few of the connections they have made, but, it makes a lot more sense than anything I've seen on Fox news in the last 6 years.

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. Anyone on any of the four planes is daid. They ain't alive.
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agreed. The people who were on the planes died. So who is it that hijacked them if it wasn't who the FBI said. And if they're willing to just make shit up from nowhere, what else are they going to lie about?

And what makes you think anyone is lying?The hijackers were the folk on the flights.What does anyone know about who is on a flight?A name. That's about all, a name.Let me give you an example. When I was in kindergarten, a small group of about 20 kids, there was another kid with the same name. Later I went to work for the Sea Pines Company. There was another person working there with the same name. Still later I went to work in Natural Resources, only to find that the guy who was the real expert in Marine Mammal biology, particularly Sea Turtles had the same name as me. Made presentations interesting. Then moved to Texas. Bought a house. The same week I bought this house the house next door sold, to a family with the same last name. Still later I went to refill a prescription and they refused to refill it because I'd had a heart attack and heart surgery. The surgery was in South Carolina, at Hilton Head. When I laughed the folk asked me why. I explained it was likely that I would have remembered the surgery even if not the heart attack. I got them to check social security numbers and they were the same except for the first three digits. Turns out it was my old friend from Sea Pines and he happened to have insurance through the same folk I did.Coincidences happen.

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Now this IS a revelation! What have you marine biologists discovered and why are you keeping it from us?lfen

maybe I'm just not being clear enough.The FBI released a list of 19 people, along with their pictures of the hijackers on the planes.Several of the people on the list have turned up alive. Same name, same countries of origen, same face.Did your classmate have your same face?Would the two of you have been identified by friends and family as the same person?I am trying not to be rude, so if I am, I apolagize, it's just when these things are reported by the BBC, yet you insist it's just coincidence, it's a bit frusterating.This has nothing to do with wacky conspiracy theories. I am telling you that THE FBI LIED. There is absolutely no way around it. It's in the headlines.

A second edition of the Loose Change video has been released semi-recently (just google for "Loose Change").If you have only seen the original the 2nd edition adds another 20-30 minutes of 'evidence' and cleans up the graphics content significantly. All in all, a very intriguing watch. There are a lot of questions about 9/11 that remain, in my opinion unanswered.I hope that everyone would take 90 minutes out their life and watch this movie. It very well could be total crap but if enough people start asking questions maybe the government will finally get around to releasing evidence that counters the claims put forth. It wouldn't be hard - a 10 second clip from one of the security cameras around the pentagon of the plane hitting would be all it takes to refute about half of the movie. Yet they refuse to produce this evidence. What do they have to hide?

Yawn.The FBI was working from a list of names. The names were likely not even correct. When I order a ticket I usually do so with the name folk generally use when speaking to me. It is not my full name, not even really the correct name, but rather the nickname, common name I use.The names were used to connect pictures that were then used trying to determine what the people on the planes looked like. Pictures were from before the fact. Names were from the manifest after the fact.It's very possible they were not the same people. But to say that there are hijackers (from the four planes involved) that are still alive and walking around is just silly. If they are alive then they ain't the hijackers.Sorry but that whole bit is just too damn funny. That whole line of reasoning is simply too silly for words.

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