On feeling sorry for people

That's not what I said nor what I meant. Your pictures of birds and flowers had nothing to do with morality and neither did my description of the Veterans.The responses of other posters to my description turned it into a moral matter. Your response was mild compared to some of them. If you look at the OP, you will see that I referred to those reactions that called my feeling "dehumanizing" to the Vets. That's particularly what I was responding to.When we got to this new thread, you responded to it less mildly, but perhaps you were just irritated that I brought the subject up again. Since you responded, I responded to you, although you were not one of the posters whose comments were extreme.So it was not a moral matter with me originally--neither your pictures nor my description of the Vets.But my overall point was to suggest that this negative reaction for my feeling sorry for the vets was a PC concept. Creavolution, I think, agreed that it was a PERVERSION of a PC concept.

Discreet Lebel, #260, "Boasts of Atheists."

My versionand eating pudding can't be moral or immoral so that is a bad example.[AbE]nevermind the last bit thereEdited by NeuroCycle, : No reason given.

'scuse me?I've been saying all along that robins example was not a morality tale.

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I editted my post above before I saw your replyEdited by NeuroCycle, : expansion

If you like I will also sing "In San Francisco Bay" for you too.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Its weird - I get the feeling we're just talking at cross porpoises. I feel a bit silly. It feels like you really don't think my point of view is reasonable, and so I'm prompted to write lengthier and lengthier defences of it. To be honest, I don't really care that much about the issue - I just want to see if I can get some acknowledgment, somehow. One last go!I think I see your point of view. Is it best crystalised thus? That seems perfectly reasonable. I do that most of the time. ( I happen to be one of those people who really likes getting strangers to smile back at them on the bus by smiling at them.) Of course, there are times when I don't do this. I might be in a bad mood. I might be in a hurry. For other people, they might be inhibited by any nomber of factors, either short- or long-term. Maybe you come from a small town - but I don't believe that you are physically capable of acknowledging every human you come near. Sometimes this isn't possible, or desirable, or appropriate. There are all kinds of circumstances that might prevent you from tipping your ten gallon hat to a passer-by. There are so many.I'm imagining that you see your position as common sense, humane etc.. etc.. But I was prompted to write because it seemed like everyone was being uneccessarily hard on Robin. To pass a judgement on him, as some people seemed to, or even with a shake of a metaphorical head to say "you have perhaps missed out on a wonderful conversation" seemed to be a little presumptuous. That's all - that's my only point! I think its presumptuous because there could be any number of reasons that prevented him from talking. We weren't there: we don't know.Notice - he didn't say "when I see old veterans from wars, I pity them." He was instead refering to a specific situation and the feelings he felt at that time. It would be pretty offensive to sweepingly dismiss all vets as objects of pity out of hand. But he didn't do that.Even if you want to, sometimes you can't speak to the people that break your heart to look at - but I was really suprised that when he offered this moment up he got the reception he did. Like I said, we don't know what meant that he didn't speak at this time - but to assume that the failure to speak/smile/whatever indicates some kind of character flaw seems weird [italic]when none of us are able to be like this 100% of the time[/italic]I was asking for evidence not to try to undermine your argument necessarily, but because I'm having real trouble understanding your position and I need help.Whoops! Got to go. Cheers, hope you are doing okay today. I can't wait to get out of work.

What is this supposed to mean?Edited by robinrohan, : No reason given.

Gee, I thought it was perfectly clear. I will be happy to sing another song for you if you wish.

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It might be better if you just tell me what the song was supposed to mean. I'm not musically minded.

But I am quite capable of acknowledging all of them.Every person I pass on the street, I look them in the eye. (Women in particular like being looked in the eye rather than the chest.)They don't all make eye contact. Some of them avoid it. Many of them don't react at all. Some smile, some say "Hi." Some return my smile, some return my "Hi."On rare occaisions, we both stop and have a conversation.It sounds to me that you're doing exactly the same thing, but you seem to feel the need to diminish the value of those "baby steps". If it's presumptuous, it's presumptuous. Boo hoo. Don't waste posts on it. I wish you would point out where I said anything about "character flaws".Read my lips: I said he missed an oppurtunity. That's all.I'll say again: I don't know why all the shrinking violets are getting into such a snit about it.

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Nah, folk learn best by working things out for themselves. I will not diminish you or the pleasure you will get from figuring it out on your own.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

This strikes me as mere petty rudeness.

is that when dolphins sonar messes up and they crash into each other?*squeek* *squeek*sorry couldn't resist Edited by ReverendDG, : No reason given.Edited by ReverendDG, : darn quotes

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FAITH, n.
Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. - the devil's dictonary

I can't believe I missed that.

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