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Dr Adequate
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Message 62 of 95 (402413)
05-26-2007 1:12 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by riVeRraT
05-26-2007 11:21 AM


Columbus, Lewis And Clark
Making decisions based upon reason or evidence or thinking through the consequences for me and others seems like a good way to go.
Well it is a good thing lewis and clark, or columbus didn't think that way.
But in fact they did. And if Columbus' sole contribution to geographical knowledge was sitting on his arse in Genoa taking the western route to China on faith, instead of actually sailing west looking for evidence for it (and finding America instead) then this post would read: "Columbus who?"
Similarly Lewis and Clark went looking for evidence about the course of the Missouri river --- they didn't make up stories about an imaginary magic river they'd never seen and then go around explaining that anyone who didn't believe in the magic river would be tortured for all eternity by naiads.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 78 of 95 (402670)
05-29-2007 11:16 AM
Reply to: Message 69 by riVeRraT
05-28-2007 8:15 PM


Re: Columbus, Lewis And Clark
That's right, every explorer knew where they were going before they left.
Of course I said no such thing. On the contrary, I stressed that Columbus found something he wasn't expecting. Could you try to respond to the things I actually post rather than some gibberish you made up in your head?
But every explorer did going looking for something. That's what makes them explorers. If they'd stayed home basing their opinions about geography on faith, they wouldn't have been explorers. They went looking for evidence about geography, and they based their reports on the evidence they found.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 90 of 95 (403000)
05-31-2007 11:11 AM
Reply to: Message 82 by riVeRraT
05-30-2007 9:35 AM


Re: Columbus, Lewis And Clark
Of course I said no such thing. On the contrary, I stressed that Columbus found something he wasn't expecting. Could you try to respond to the things I actually post rather than some gibberish you made up in your head?
My reply was such, because you choose to ignore my point.
You are lying. Your reply was "That's right, every explorer knew where they were going before they left" --- something which I never said, and do not believe, and which I specifically pointed out was not true.
Now, would you like to respond to my posts, or to some stupid gibberish you've made up in your head?
Such is the search for God.
Let me know if you come up with one single shred of empirical evidence for him, as Columbus did for the existence of America.

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