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ringo
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Message 106 of 140 (723621)
04-04-2014 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 105 by New Cat's Eye
04-04-2014 10:39 AM


Re: Vaping
Catholic Scientist writes:
I've already berated some of my friends for having failed to convert to vaping yet. Holier than thou n'everything
Yeah, but us non-smoker/non-vapers are still holier than thou.

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ramoss
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Message 107 of 140 (723637)
04-04-2014 3:46 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by Dogmafood
04-04-2014 12:50 AM


Re: Vaping
I personally will be interested to see how successful you are, and how it affects your overall health.
There is so much bad information and bad propaganda out there, that I would like to see how someone who was so enamored of cigarettes react to migrating to them from the regular ones.
While I don't advocate vaping, I certainly object to them much less than being around regular cigarettes.

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NoNukes
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Message 108 of 140 (723645)
04-04-2014 9:59 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by New Cat's Eye
04-04-2014 8:28 AM


Re: Vaping
Its 12 mg/ml, which is, like, ppm not percent.
1 mg/ml is equivalent 1 gram per liter of solution. That's about one tenth of a percent and not like 1 part per million. 12 mg/ml is about 1.2 per cent by weight.
Despite the fact that it isn't a goal for you. I hope switching to vaping does help improve your health/longevity.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.
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Dogmafood
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Message 109 of 140 (723650)
04-05-2014 4:09 AM
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04-04-2014 10:39 AM


Re: Vaping
Meh, not so much. I've had 36 mg/ml juice, it just tasted like shit. Given how much you smoked, I wouldn't be worried about the juice. Just don't drink it.
I just meant overdosing to the point of getting a headache.

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Dogmafood
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Message 110 of 140 (723652)
04-05-2014 7:11 AM
Reply to: Message 107 by ramoss
04-04-2014 3:46 PM


Re: Vaping
I have always enjoyed pretty good health. Mostly by the luck of the draw I think. My bp at my last visit to the doc was 112/68 and heart rate of 65. I am 47 and have been smoking since I was about 15 but much heavier in the last 10 yrs.
After 5 days of vaping I notice that I breath easier and that my smokers cough is fading fast. Food is tasting more intense and my sense of smell is getting stronger. I had been developing a general sense of congestion and that is falling off. My sinuses are substantially clearer.
On the down side I do notice a slight dryness in my eyes and throat but that is diminishing. I had sore lips for the first 2 days but that is gone now. Maybe a bit of increased flatulence but they smell like antifreeze now instead of a dead animal.
All things considered so far I would have to say that it is an absolute improvement over smoking in every way.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 111 of 140 (723836)
04-09-2014 6:28 PM
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04-05-2014 4:09 AM


Re: Vaping
So, how's it going? Still good? Has your family noticed or said anything?

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Dogmafood
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Message 112 of 140 (723859)
04-10-2014 9:10 AM
Reply to: Message 111 by New Cat's Eye
04-09-2014 6:28 PM


Re: Vaping
It is going very well. My kids were fascinated for a bit but then seemed pretty much indifferent. They did say that it smells better than smoke. It is nice that I dont have to shoo them out of my smoke filled office. I can vape like a fiend and the air stays clear.
It has been a process of trial and error testing flavours and strength and hardware. I guess the whole thing is more finicky than smoking. The equipment and vials remind me of syringes and medicine which is a bit off putting but no big deal. I bought a dry leaf atomizer that is pretty sweet too.
In ten days I have used about 25ml of juice at a cost of 50 cents/ml so the economics are fantastic.
Health wise I find a continued improvement in my breathing with clearer sinuses being the most noticeable. The only down side is that my lips will get sore if I use it too much.
I smoked 3 cigs on the day that I bought it and then I tried to smoke one yesterday and didn't get past the first drag. Absolutely phenomenal.
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 113 of 140 (725318)
04-25-2014 4:56 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by kjsimons
03-27-2014 2:21 PM


Re: Just don't exhale
Perhaps people would rather not be dosed with nicotine?
This study detected no nicotine in the air after a vape session:

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kjsimons
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Message 114 of 140 (725365)
04-26-2014 10:07 AM
Reply to: Message 113 by New Cat's Eye
04-25-2014 4:56 PM


Re: Just don't exhale
From this brief "Poster" (not a study), it doesn't appear they were testing for nicotine in the air.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 501 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 115 of 140 (725377)
04-26-2014 1:29 PM
Reply to: Message 112 by Dogmafood
04-10-2014 9:10 AM


Re: Vaping
ProtoTypical writes:
In ten days I have used about 25ml of juice at a cost of 50 cents/ml so the economics are fantastic.
Not so loud. The government will find a way to tax it.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 116 of 140 (725387)
04-26-2014 5:47 PM
Reply to: Message 114 by kjsimons
04-26-2014 10:07 AM


Re: Just don't exhale
From this brief "Poster" (not a study), it doesn't appear they were testing for nicotine in the air.
Its under Methods:
quote:
We measured total organic carbon (TOC), tolluene, xylene, carbon monoxide (CO), nitrogen oxides (NOX), nicotine, acrolein, poly-aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) glycerin and propylene glycol levels on the air of the room.
and Results:
quote:
No tolluene, xylene, CO, NOX, nicotine, acrolein or PAHs were detected on room air during e-CIG session.
Here's the full thing:
http://clearstream.flavourart.it/...s/2012/09/CSA_ItaEng.pdf
And here's another one:
Peering through the mist: systematic review of what the chemistry of contaminants in electronic cigarettes tells us about health risks - PMC
quote:
There was no evidence of potential for exposures of e-cigarette users to contaminants that are associated with risk to health at a level that would warrant attention if it were an involuntary workplace exposures.

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ramoss
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Message 117 of 140 (725416)
04-27-2014 12:59 AM
Reply to: Message 113 by New Cat's Eye
04-25-2014 4:56 PM


Re: Just don't exhale
ANd this study disagrees with that
Secondhand Exposure to Vapors From Electronic Cigarettes | Nicotine & Tobacco Research | Oxford Academic
It seems to depend on the brand.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 118 of 140 (725467)
04-27-2014 1:53 PM
Reply to: Message 117 by ramoss
04-27-2014 12:59 AM


Re: Just don't exhale
ANd this study disagrees with that
Its not clear that the nicotine levels they detected were from vapor exhaled by a person as opposed to the vapors generated directly from the smoking machine.

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kjsimons
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From: Orlando,FL
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Message 119 of 140 (725474)
04-27-2014 3:35 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by New Cat's Eye
04-26-2014 5:47 PM


Re: Just don't exhale
My mistake. I could have sworn I didn't see nicotine in the list of items measured. I don't know how I could have missed it but I did, my apologies.
I am a bit surprised that they didn't detect any nicotine in the air after vaping though.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 120 of 140 (725513)
04-27-2014 9:25 PM
Reply to: Message 119 by kjsimons
04-27-2014 3:35 PM


Re: Just don't exhale
My mistake. I could have sworn I didn't see nicotine in the list of items measured. I don't know how I could have missed it but I did, my apologies.
No problem, it happens.
I am a bit surprised that they didn't detect any nicotine in the air after vaping though.
Its absorbed into the body, that's why we do it.

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