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Message 4 of 79 (282420)
01-29-2006 10:36 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Coragyps
01-29-2006 10:16 PM


i got a 16. one of the ones i got wrong i guessed right at first but changed my answer.

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Message 6 of 79 (282422)
01-29-2006 10:38 PM
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01-29-2006 10:36 PM


Re: Bunch of crap
creator does not necessarily mean god.
and the declaration mentions such, not the constitution. they are not the same thing. the declaration is not a government document, but a statement of rebellion. it has no role in our government.

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Message 16 of 79 (282434)
01-29-2006 10:55 PM
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01-29-2006 10:47 PM


Re: Bunch of crap
please do.

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Message 55 of 79 (283378)
02-02-2006 10:35 AM
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01-30-2006 8:04 AM


Re: Bunch of crap
yes. you have the right to believe whatever you want. you can even believe that your toilet is god and it imparts wisdom through your anus to you.
however, you do not have the right to legislate based on your beliefs. if there is no non-religious reason for a law, it should not stand. (note: this is not the case.)

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Message 56 of 79 (283382)
02-02-2006 10:40 AM
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01-30-2006 11:58 AM


Re: Secular v Religious v Xian
to get the meaning of 'the whole body of the church' you have to lowercase the c. but you're being argumentative. you know full well Catholic refers to the roman catholic church or at the very most the roman and eastern rite churches. it doesn not mean 'the whole church' to anyone even those who have read the westminster confession.

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Message 57 of 79 (283383)
02-02-2006 10:42 AM
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01-31-2006 5:00 AM


Re: Secular v Religious v Xian
yeah. the puritans talked about religious freedom. they certainly didn't practice it. but then christians have talked about compassion and 'blessed are the peacemakers' for how many years and crap if that's the case.

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Message 58 of 79 (283391)
02-02-2006 10:57 AM
Reply to: Message 52 by riVeRraT
02-02-2006 8:00 AM


Re: Bunch of crap
because churches should be making prophets, not profits. a 501(c)3 certifies an organization as not-for-profit.
So that just proves that churches must answer to governement.
Our laws dictate what a church is, or isn't.
um. no. jesus what the one who discouraged church involvement in money. or doesn't it apply since it's not related to selling sacrificial animals?
Yes it is legislated.
More than church.
the hell you say.
let me explain the scientific process to you. not the method, the process.
i get some fantastic idea about how something works.
i think about it and read what is published on the subject.
i write up a sumarry of what's been published. this is called a lit review.
then i form a clear statement of how i think my idea works. this is called a thesis proposal. this includes a statement of methodology. i.e. will you be taking a survey or fiddling with chemicals or training dogs to eat each other or whatever.
then i call some people and send them these two things. they send me money to pursue it. these things can be very time consuming and prevent things like jobs from happening. also, you can present them to your department if you are a professor and they will give you funding for graduate assistants to help you with the project and teaching assistants to teach your classes while you're busy.
then you conduct your research. this may take a very long time (sometimes 50 years for psychologists or those crazy anthro kids). and if you live through it, you state your results in a long and drawn out fashion and then present it at a conference. then someone else takes your paper and re-conducts your experiment (in the case of hard sciences) or reanalyzes your statistics or whatever (in the case of soft 'sciences').
so if these people can redo your experiment and get the same results, you get published in a journal. then someone loves you and you publish an even longer version in a book and you go on sabatical to rest your tired brain.
did you see any legislation in there?
i mean. maybe you could say that the retest is a kind of legislation since if they can't repeat the experiment it is proclaimed invalid. but that's a good thing. being able to say someone is wrong is a very powerful thing. you can't do it with religion. there's no way we can prevent the next pope from deciding that jesus isn't important and we all have to sacrifice virgins to maintain the purity of the blessed mother. (btw. that's just an example. and a crazy one.)
but yes. we can legislate base on scientific discoveries because they are inherently a reflection of reality and not controlled by politics. (ideally. this has no hold over the bomb or oil or cigarrettes.) religion is very political, however. and can change at the drop of a hat. science takes at least 7 years to change. cause that's how long it takes to get published.
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Message 74 of 79 (284224)
02-05-2006 6:13 PM
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02-05-2006 6:07 PM


Re: Secular v Religious v Xian
they came to america seeking freedom from persecution. but they did anything but allow the same to others.

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Message 75 of 79 (284225)
02-05-2006 6:14 PM
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02-05-2006 6:00 PM


Re: Secular v Religious v Xian
well, apparently it's a decidedly anti-christian idea.
you know. like forgiveness.

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