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Author Topic:   Interesting quiz
crashfrog
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Message 5 of 79 (282421)
01-29-2006 10:38 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by riVeRraT
01-29-2006 10:36 PM


Re: Bunch of crap
But the consititution does mention the creator.
No, it doesn't.

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crashfrog
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Message 9 of 79 (282425)
01-29-2006 10:40 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by riVeRraT
01-29-2006 10:39 PM


Re: Have a clue?
Anyone have a clue why this came about?
Eisenhower wanted to drive home the difference between America and the "godless" Communists. Cold War rhetoric, in other words.
I mean really, could you be anymore hateful?
What's hateful about the facts?

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crashfrog
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Message 22 of 79 (282457)
01-30-2006 1:02 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by riVeRraT
01-29-2006 10:47 PM


Re: Bunch of crap
Why did they jump from God, to Christianity?
Because they're the ones with the theocratic agenda.
Show me were in any of the constitution, or Decrlaration of Independence that we cannot use bilical principals, or anyother form of morals to make up who and what we are.
The First Amendment. Oh, you can be inspired by the Bible to make a law, sure. But your justification for the law has to be its secular purpose, not its appearance in the Bible.
Show me were it says we are to use only atheistic moral, or morals governed by science to determine or laws?
It's right there in the quiz. It's called "the Lemon test." If you can't justify your proposed law with a secular purpose, it's religion.
I should start a new nation, and the first ammendment will read, a separation of science and state.
Who's stopping you? One less theocrat to muck things up here, if you ask me.

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crashfrog
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Message 35 of 79 (282526)
01-30-2006 9:35 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by Silent H
01-30-2006 6:01 AM


Re: Secular v Religious v Xian
Heheheh... I got a 19, though one question I got right was because I knew what they wanted and it was wholly biased.
Gotta totally agree with you on that. Biased enough that I think they were outright wrong on a few points; particularly, I'm fairly certain from reading Stephenson's Baroque Cycle that the concept of the seperation of church and state actually did originate in England with the Puritans.
Maybe I'm wrong? I actually did lose a bunch of points because I consistently gave the Puritans more credit for religious tolerance than they did. I guess that's either bias on their part or an indication of how successful fundamentalist Christian revisionism has been on me.

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crashfrog
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Message 62 of 79 (283841)
02-04-2006 9:23 AM
Reply to: Message 61 by riVeRraT
02-04-2006 12:32 AM


Re: Bunch of crap
But one thing is for sure, and that is that the nation was not formed on atheistic values. They believed in God, and wanted freedom of religion. They wanted government and religion to be separated so that religious leaders could not legally tell you what to do. The religious leaders of the day were IMO POS. Sound familiar?
Yeah. It's a philosophy known today as "secularism."

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