DRUGS!

Then you go on to say Despite the fact that others have said that they do retain the ability to reason you still insist you are right. The fact that you have not done any drugs makes me think that you do not have the expertise to judge the situation.I have tried several drugs. I have no regrets that I quit (smoking and coffee still have a hold on me), but when I look back I would not have to say that my regrets lie in the fact that I was "less than an animal". This is not the same as claiming that a person on drugs is irrational and does not retain the ability to reason. There are a lot of things that one should not do in excess, hence the saying "in moderation". I think you are going to have a tough time trying to prove that all drugs makes one "less than an animal" when you have no personal experience to judge. ( Personal experience is not even factual, as each person will have different reactions)

Interesting that you see it that way. Perhaps you could explain why? It is a fact that each person will react differently to things. Is a person who drinks too much water and has a reaction "less than an animal"? How about a diabetic that eats chocolate?You seem to have drawn a line in the sand, perhaps you could explain where that line is before declaring victory. You have no personal experience in any of the areas being talked about here. Me stating that people have different reactions to things is hardly a groundbreaking event.

Long term use of salt is harmful. Long term use of filtered water is harmful. He is yet to show why beer makes a person immoral - so as of yet you have not shown why experience is not a justified claim to use against him.Jumping off cliffs is not bad, I have done it quite a few times myself. Personal experience may differ, but I found that ensuring there is ample water below made for a fun day of cliff diving.

Not that I disagree with you Buzsaw. I think that many people are dependant on pharmaceuticals when they do not need to be. I am more curious to know if you reject all pharmaceuticals or a general refusal of medications unless a health situation requires it?My only reason for asking is regarding certain specific medications that I am familiar with because of my job. The examples I immediatly thought of are epilepsy, diabetes, asthma, and infections. I am sure I can think of more, but what I am hoping to show is that some medications do save lives, and do not have an herbal alternative. The people/situations I am thinking of are not your average med abuser who walks into a clinic - I mean like severe epileptics who, without medication to control it, would simply die.Is your rejection of medication a more general attitude or a complete rejection of all pharmaceuticals? As I say, I pretty much mirror your opinion, but I am curious about the details.