DRUGS!

I seem to recall that I asked you to respond with something more than just, "Nuh uh!" You didn't. I tell you now that if in the future you cannot find a way to put something of substance in your relpies, I shall have no further reason to communicate with you on this topic.My friend did take advice from a drunk person and, if I can take the word of a person who sometimes drinks as true, our talk did in fact help him. You really must tell me whence you acquired this remarkable ability to know more about what has happened to me than I do. It's fascinating.In fact, what it does mean is that you were completely, utterly and famously wrong when you said that drug use renders one unable to tend to another's needs. What's more, this was not an isolated incident. During the score or more poker nights that I have attended, dozens of problems have come up, some less important than others, some more. In each case, the game took a back seat to tending to a friend's problem. Ah, now you're changing your tune. Has my ability decreased? Probably somewhat. But it never disappeared as you initially claimed. I'm glad to see you've recognized the error of your ways.

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

To sum up:-Alcohol removes all capacity for reason. This is why drunks don't live more than a couple nights, since they invariably wind up jabbing the bottle in their eye, thinking it's their mouth.-Despite never having done any drugs of any kind, MOO knows exactly what the mindset is of a person under the influence of those drugs. If you, under the influence of those drugs, do not match his vision, you're wrong. It's science!-Any glaring factual errors in MOO's posts mean that you have either not addressed the heart of his post, or that you are having obvious trouble reasoning.-Oscar Wilde and Dylan Thomas were sober nobodies. I've never heard of them, have you? Except to hear that they were sober, of course.-MOO knows Subbie's friend well enough to know from whom he would, and would not, take advice. Subbie, on the other hand, does not.

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"I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut."
-Stephen Colbert

You might want to make an actual response to back up your "reasoning".Edited by Ringo, : Shpelling.

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I'm not changing any tune.Since you cannot recognize all of your friends's needs all of time when drunk, drunkenness is immoral.

Really? Eat much sugar? Drink coffee, ever?Explain to me the difference.

It's convenient for you to deny my statements.

Since you cannot recognize all of your friends' needs all of the time when sober, sobriety is immoral.This is fun.

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"I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut."
-Stephen Colbert

Easy, too.

I don't drink coffee. Or eat sugar to excess.

Since he can't recognize all of his friend's needs all of the time when sober, sobriety is immoral.

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No. He is immoral, not sobriety.

No. He is immoral, not sobriety.LOL

No. He is immoral, not drunkenness. Wow, we can do this back and forth all day.Of course, since nobody's psychic, and therefore nobody can actually recognize all of their friends' needs all of the time, I guess everything and everyone is immoral.Fuck it, then. Drink up!Edited by Dan Carroll, : No reason given.

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"I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut."
-Stephen Colbert

No, we can't. My statement ends it. Why? It's correct.

One can never recognize all of anyone's needs, even one's own.I'll tell you what, slim. I'll happily engage you in a debate on any topic of your choosing that I am moderately familiar with after I have had anywhere between 1-5 drinks, you can pick the number. We can draft our various responses anonymously and then submit the results to this forum to judge whose responses are more clearly directed at the topic of the debate and who shows a clearer grasp of basic English skills. If you have some other elements of cognitive ability that you would like to have judged, let me know.Put your money where your mouth is.

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat