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Hyroglyphx
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Message 32 of 93 (424515)
09-27-2007 10:32 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Max Power
09-26-2007 10:33 AM


Diet
Ultimately, what do you think about the raw organic food diet? Can it be done successfully, do you think it will help with depression (or hurt for that matter)? This individual responds to scientific data but unfortunately I haven't been able to find too much, apparently this diet is still in its infancy.
Well, I hardly see how anyone living on a fast food diet could ever critisize anyone on a diet such as you explained. I've known quite a few vegans and vegetarians in my time. What is hard for them is to supplement enough protein in their diet. Sure, they have a vitamin rich, low fat diet. But one can only eat so many garbonzo beans and peanuts to try and get that protein. But humans are omnivores and we derive much protein from the meat of other animals.
My wife and I eat kosher because the quality is higher, plus it removes some of the ethical concerns. If we eat chicken, its free range chicken. Not only for ethical reasons, but also because of health reasons. We only eat kosher beef, and we try to eat a lot of fish. Fish have always been known to be a low fat/high protein aspect of diet. But lately, due to pollution, there have been high doses of Mercury found in many fish. Mercury is cumulative, like most radioactive materials. The more you ingest, the more it runs the risk of causing health problems.
There seems to be something about your friend, based on your description, which seems more important. Your friend sound obssesive about his eating. Which is really healthier-- a well balanced diet, or worrying yourself in to stupefaction?
I'd be more concerned with his mental health personally. But since that isn't really the focus of the thread, I'd say that his diet isn't terrible, by any stretch, but it isn't optimal either IMO.
Edited by nemesis_juggernaut, : typo

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 45 of 93 (424567)
09-27-2007 1:23 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by Jazzns
09-27-2007 10:49 AM


Re: Diet
I'll be wide open to be showing wrong but is mercury really a problem because it is radioactive or simply because it is toxic.
Where I live we have a problem with arsenic and it is the same story, you need to examine your exposure over the course of a lifetime because the effects are cumulative.
Yes, mercury is considered toxic, hence the term, "mercury poisoning."

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 47 of 93 (424570)
09-27-2007 1:41 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Jazzns
09-27-2007 1:29 PM


Re: Diet
Yes, but you said it was "radioactive". I think that is an error on your part. That is what I am commenting on.
Mercury is not radioactive in its pure form, but it can become radioactive. What I was pointing to was that it was cumulative, just like radioactive materials.
Everytime you get a sunburn, you expose yourself to radiation. But one or two times won't cause any lasting damage. But if you expose yourself more and more, you run the risk of skin cancer.
Most people are also unaware that smoking causes radiation, via radon. An unlit cigarrette causes no radiation. As soon as you cause a chemical reaction, such as burning, you inhale those fumes, which are both toxic and radioactive, in to your lungs. So aside from the hundreds of carcinogens, you can add radiation to the mix too.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 49 of 93 (424595)
09-27-2007 3:49 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by crashfrog
09-27-2007 2:36 PM


Re: Bioaccumulation and Radioactivity
You're conflating two separate phenomena, here.
How am I conflating two separate phenomena? All I said was that, like radioactivity, mercury accumulates in the body. You then went in to an inordinate amount of reasoning that basically ended in you agreeing.
Chemical reactions can't cause radioactivity. The radon and polonium isotopes in cigarettes are present whether they are lit or unlit, and their radiation can be detected...Inhaled, however, radon gas and vaporized polonium isotopes can do damage to the lungs, which explains some of the carcinogenic effect of smoking.
Okay, then I should have been more explicit. Being in the same room with an unlit cigarette won't transfer all those nasties in the same way that ingesting it, or inhaling the smoke will.
Edited by nemesis_juggernaut, : No reason given.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 51 of 93 (424626)
09-27-2007 6:43 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by crashfrog
09-27-2007 5:22 PM


Re: Bioaccumulation and Radioactivity
Did you read what I wrote? Radioactivity doesn't accumulate in the body. The damage from it to one's genetics can accumulate, but the body can repair the damage over time, as well.
At the risk of dragging this topic far off topic, this will be my last transmission in this vein.
Isotopes can accumulate in the body. Some are metabolized, but some bind in organs or in bone, and can cause all sorts of ailments. But really, aren't we saying the same thing? Isn't that precisely why the doctor places a lead blanket on the patient who is getting x-rays so all those gamma rays aren't permeating your body, except in the targeted area?
But if you'd like to prove me wrong, take a bath using water from the municipal water plant at Chernobyl.

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