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Author Topic:   Is anyone else fed up with Muslims complaining all the time?
Dan Carroll
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Message 27 of 152 (350265)
09-19-2006 11:13 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Brian
09-18-2006 3:39 PM


Is anyone else fed up with Muslims complaining all the time?
Fuckin' crybabies.
Cartoons of Muhammad and papal speeches don't exist in a vaccuum. Similarly, everything was not going fine and dandy in LA, until a couple bad apple cops beat down Rodney King.
Riots might get set off by single incident, making the riot seem like a vast overreaction. But the incident is never the sole cause.

"We had survived to turn on the History Channel
And ask our esteemed panel, Why are we alive? And here's how they replied:
You're what happens when two substances collide
And by all accounts you really should have died."
-Andrew Bird

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Dan Carroll
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Message 75 of 152 (350751)
09-20-2006 4:25 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by LinearAq
09-20-2006 3:57 PM


If these deaths were ALL actions of US soldiers on innocent Iraqis, the question would be is it occuring more now than say...in WWII in Europe?
Why on Earth would that be relevant? When a young boy is killed while clutching a white surrender flag, those who care about him don't give a rat's ass whether the folks in Dresden had it worse or not. Either way, they're going to, as the thread puts it, "complain."
When a scenario like that is carried out tens of thousands more times, they're going to complain louder. And, astonishingly enough, they're not going to stop to think, "Maybe we should consider how lucky we are that we're not in Dresden, circa 1945."
It seems to me that your implication that American soldiers are inordinately aggressive and barbaric is just as much a generalization as the statement to which you are responding.
Well, I think that your implication that all Irishmen are made of chocolate is just silly.
I know you didn't say anything that even remotely resembled that; it's just more fun to argue it than what you actually posted. And I think it's even more of a generalization than this business about American soldiers. Shame on you.
Are you saying their violent reaction is reasonable because the perception that their religion is being attacked and this perception was caused by the deaths of many apparantly innocent individuals in Iraq?
No. I'm saying that the reason they are "complaining" is not because the pope said something asinine. The pope's speech is the sharpened straw that was used to stab the camel's repeatedly broken back.
To suggest that some people heard a speech and flipped out is to over-simplify what happened to a ridiculous degree.
If you excuse irrational violent acts...
I don't. But they continue to happen, whether I excuse them or not. So maybe we should be looking at what actually causes them, so we have a better shot at preventing them in the future.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 110 of 152 (351097)
09-21-2006 3:11 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by LinearAq
09-21-2006 1:57 PM


However, none of us know the circumstances behind that boy's killing.
I'm sure there is, in fact, a perfectly reasonable set of circumstances that make it okay to kill a young boy, who is clutching a white surrender flag in his hands.
Who took the picture?
Dahr Jamail.
Who is claiming the boy was surrendering?
A white flag is a fairly universal symbol. It is, at the very least, known to the US Army.
Of course Al Jazzera (sp?) wouldn't skew or manufacture news to support their view, would they?
I have no idea if they would or not. But Jamail doesn't work for Al Jazeera, so I'm not sure what the relevance is.
The photos to which I linked, however, were taken under the supervision of the US military.
I'm sure that detailed forensic analysis of each of those "murders" would point directly to a brutal jack-booted American soldier who intentionally set out to kill innocent people because they are Muslims.(sarcasm)
No, I'm sure the boy was a total fucker.
It just seemed to me that you were using the shock value of those bloody corpses to imply that whatever the protesters do, it is really all the fault of the Americans.
Okay. I just said, in my last post, that it wasn't my intent, but whatever.

"We had survived to turn on the History Channel
And ask our esteemed panel, Why are we alive? And here's how they replied:
You're what happens when two substances collide
And by all accounts you really should have died."
-Andrew Bird

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