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PaulK
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Message 1 of 5 (198679)
04-12-2005 2:39 PM


Francis Collins is a Christian and a leading figure in the Human Genome Project.
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Message 2 of 5 (198688)
04-12-2005 3:04 PM
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04-12-2005 2:39 PM


Interesting interview. Thanks for the link.

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Brad McFall
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Message 3 of 5 (201231)
04-22-2005 4:16 PM
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04-12-2005 2:39 PM


More ID now on air
Home | CS Lewis
tHIS AUTHor is just now on the radio,TV and the web
here is some of the content
Page Not Found | Baker Publishing Group
quote:
Darwinism and Intelligent Design...what does it all mean and how does it apply to you and your worldview? Join us for a great talk about this subject with author Thomas Woodward about his recent work, 'Doubts About Darwin: The History of Intelligent Design.' Your questions will be answered this hour, and your intellect enriched by this discussion.
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quote:
The editor's purpose was, quite literally, to overwhelm the reader. In fact, the first page tells us of evolution's "overwhelming evidence"twice, in headline and text.
Woodward on National Geographic
Were the Darwinists Wrong? | Christianity Today
He has correctly represented the notion of A PRIORI nature of the teaching of writing papers on evolution. I experienced what he said in the bee project as a Freshman at Cornell.
"Unlocking the Mystery of Life" is what he is promoting today.
http://www.arn.org/arnproducts/videos/v026.htm
A question came up on the moral life of evos. Woodward spoke of libertarianism. He mentioned Raup and Ruse who have their own moral 'ethos' borrowed"" from Christianity.
There was a problem about logic of the designer vs the design if the designer is more complex than the design rasied scientifically by the last caller.
Woodward answered as to causality:
1)law like
2)random process
3)intelligence
Woodward said this is same comment as Dawkins made in TheBlind Watchmaker.
Woodward sayS it is ciruclar. Either universe produced us or intelligence produced us.
I would overscore that the desinger might be of the same cardinality but a different ordinality AS THE UNIVERSE and that does not necessarily lead to a contradiction as the last caller questioned.There could be one according to the "way science proceeds" if one assumes that NO DEDUCTION will occur in ANY DISCOVERY in/at/on/with the D"sign". We don't know. The caller like other evcers is free to wait.
We already know this on EVC so the broad cast didnt bring anything debatly new i would suggest.
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Message 4 of 5 (204982)
05-04-2005 2:07 PM
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04-12-2005 3:04 PM


another ID live link
Wednesday, 5/4/2005
Hour 1
On a wonderful Wednesday, we'll talk with William Dembski, a mathematician, and an associate research professor in the conceptual foundations of science at Baylor Univeristy in Texas. Dembski, also a senior fellow with the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture in Seattle, and a prominent intelligent-design researcher, is no longer allowed to teach on campus due to his views in this area, and he'll share his story with us.
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WD's "Design Revolution" discussed here on evc
Percy asked in that thread,
quote:
Dembski thinks intelligence is a basic creative force within nature? And the evidence for this?
Let's see if Dr. William Dembski gets here.
His "Design Inference" book is what he mentions as to the "body of knowledge" of ID. So temptation vs imperative? I guess there must be a force there but is it inferrrrrred?
"instant gratification mechanism" is what he names NS but he did say that it 'solves' "routine" problems which isnt quite exact as we dont know what the fundamental accounting magnitude is.
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Message 5 of 5 (321164)
06-13-2006 3:17 PM
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04-12-2005 2:39 PM


Link of message 1 is no longer good
I tracked down this topic because of the new Francis Collins and Theistic Evolution "Proposed New Topics" (PNT) topic.
Clicking on the message 1 link of this topic gets you to a page that includes:
The site you've requested (Tucker Carlson: Unfiltered) has been retired from pbs.org.
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Using PBS's keyword search for "Francis Collins" gets you to this page, which at the moment returns 218 results.
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