Can science progress with creationism/ID?

From my understanding, the frameworks proposed by both Creationism and ID create a limit to scientific discovery due to a literal adherence to Genesis or by the designation of 'irreducible complexity'. With this in mind, how do Creationists/IDists on this board see science progress within one of these models? For example, how could these models be used to interpret the genome?Sorry if this has been discussed before. I ask this because on another webboard I had a discussion with somebody on this subject. These positions are often dismissed as scientifically lazy i.e. 'God did it, let's move on" but is there more to it?

My instinct is that message 1, as presented, would lead to one big mess of a topic. The above quoted, however, sure seems to be a good core theme for a new topic, which I offhand guess would best go into the "Intelligent Design" forum (but I may be wrong).I suggest you post a new message in this here "Proposed New Topic" (PNT) with that theme as your focus point. Say a little something about your own perspective on that theme. That new message can be spun-off to become the new, open to debate topic.If such happens, I suggest "How could Creationist/Intelligent Design models be used to interpret the genome?" to be the new topic title. The admin doing the topic promotion would have to supply that new title at the time of promotion.I will try to personally handle future considerations of this topics promotion. Please make your new message a reply to this message. That will help me track this PNT's progress.As always, other admin input is welcome.Adminnemooseus

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As I said originally my initial post was to understand the other sides point of view, but when you put it like that...Okay I will go with your suggestion, since I've found this area lacking in Creationist/ID literature. I also find this to be the most compelling evidence in support of evolution.How would Creationist/ID models be used to interpret artifacts we see in species genomes? For example, looking at the human genome comparing it with chimpanzee's and the other great apes:
(1) In human chromosome 2 there is a telomere sequence and the remnants of a centromere sequence, indicating that this results from the fusion of the chimpanzee chromosomes 2p and 2q.
(2) The presence of endogenous retroviruses at the same position within the genomes of different species.
(3) Both chimp and humans have two 21-hydroxylase genes on their genome - a functional gene and a pseudogene. Both share the same mutation which inactivated the pseudogene.Finally two questions on how to proceed further in Creationist/ID models:
(4) If humans and chimpanzees are supposed to be entirely separate species, how much value is there in comparing the two genomes?
(5) In terms of ID, at what point would something be declared as 'irreducibly complex'? After such a decision, would study on such an irreducibly complex continue, and if so how? For example Michael Behe's example of the bacterial flagellum.{This message 3 promoted to be new topic ID/Creationism - Comparison of Human and Chimp Genomes. Topic promotion done 9/11/06. This PNT version of the topic is now closed. - Adminnemooseus}Edited by Adminnemooseus, : See above.Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Added promotion info to message subtitle.