Reciprocal Prayer - For Mike and Buz

So, did you miss the part where the killer was described as "crazy mad" by a barmaid, and had previously mentioned the possibility of killing the guy whom he in fact killed?The relevant distincion Dan has been trying to make is between the lowering of inhibitions toward acts of violence, and the creation of a novel impulse in the mind of someone otherwise uninclined thereto. This story doesn't score any points against his premise.

Sounds like he was pretty Psycho already to me. And I suspect the Cider had more to do with it than the Canabis. I've known people get violent on Alcohol before, but never once on Hashish.

Zephyr and Jack pretty much cover it. It says in the article that the guy was already nuts.Besides that... lager and cannabis? Beer and weed?Next thing you know we'll be arguing whether caffiene causes people to go apeshit.

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I've known people get violent on Alcohol before, but never once on Hashish.

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Might not even have been hash. Canabis? Could have been marijuana.On that note, my man Bill Hicks strikes again:

I though hashish, Canabis and marijuana were synonyms?

Hash can be any number of things. I think it mainly depends on the lingo of your area.Last time someone offered me hash, it was the resin they had collected off the leaves of marijuana while drying their home-grown.Another time someone offered me hash, and it was a block of unidentified smokeable hallucinogen. (I turned 'em down. I make it a point never to smoke anything where the guy offering it to me can't even quite tell what it is.)

Time to put the brakes on the drug tangent.I'll try to track down that drug topic that the non-admin mode started.Adminnemooseus

Narc.

"Just say 'thanks'" - Ken Kesey (I think)Now back to the topic that got the "POTM" nomination.AM

Except that the word "assassin" comes from the same root as "hashish" - some Middle Eastern bunch back in Crusades days would get wrecked on hash (the resin-off-pot-flowers sort) and then go do battle.It must have worked differently back then.

All right, all right. I'm all for continuing drug talk in the other thread.Anyone else have an intense prayer/meditation/other experience?

Once, after a moderate helping of morning glory seeds, I sat outside and felt physically connected to everything I could see... could feel the life in the huge tree in my backyard, even the grass.Occasionally, when I prayed as a Christian, I felt what I believed were responses from God. In retrospect, I think Augustine was right when he said that people construct the expected response themselves - I never heard anything that my subconscious (or even conscious) mind could not have manufactured from my knowledge of my own belief system. In other words, no surprises, no new insight or revelation, merely an inference from what I was taught that the answer was obvious. Occam would be proud, don't you think?In my recent experiences (hallucinogens included) I've never felt like anyone or anything was communicating with me. I was definitely aware that all the insights were my own, even if some surprised me.

If you did see God. Do you think you would know if it was him ?Also, do you think anyone would believe you, or would it be a product of your subconscious ? For instance, as time goes by, would you dismiss any experiences you had as coincidental ?cheers

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If you did see God. Do you think you would know if it was him ?

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If God was trying to make his presence known, you'd think he'd be a little more direct. I mean... why respond at all if he's not going to let you know he's doing so?And if he's just going to respond by supplying a coincidence, then how could he possibly blame anyone for calling it a coincidence?

I have like experiences all the time when I meditate. I don't have what you would call 'conversations' with myself, but instead I regularly sense an inflow of 'unofficial' information about the universe. Its not the type that contains factual info about external reality, but it supplies a sort of deeper intuitive understanding of the factual world. It's not like I can tell you what the final score of tonight's Laker game will be, but more like the final score will make more sense when I observe it since it will be couched in a richer experiential context.My favorite experiences, however, have been in dreaming. I'm always working towards greater lucidity in my dreams, and I've even had a few instances in which I've held two dreams simultaneously. THAT is a difficult experience to describe. If you can imagine being in two places at once you might approach it.