What to believe......

Brain, mind, soul, heart, the works, Brother Ian.

Me too. I just took a look back to your first post a second ago. 2001 it was...long before I even got a whiff of light. You were responding to opposition by about post 2 (your skin has hardened only mildly since then - amazing)... it hasn't stopped since.Night Sis..

Yet the Spirit that imparted awareness of His reality and presence can only be known by us as God. Some of us believe that humanity did not create God....He created us.

Yes, some people believe that. However, any concept that we have of GOD is simply a human creation. If GOD exists, then man did not create It. However anything that we understand as God is most definitely only a human construct.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

I didn't stick around then though. A few days? Don't remember but I left and didn't return until last Spring. So it hasn't been all that long in reality. Keep trying to get myself to leave. I hope you have an active prayer life. If so, please pray for me. I need all the prayer I can get.How long have you been a believer? You are a good evangelist if it hasn't been all that long.But good night to you too Bro, maybe you'll answer tomorrow.This message has been edited by Faith, 01-20-2006 08:47 PM

*Iano...now been busted, aging fast, but hey, still got a bike, right? Good point, though:Hal, I forgot to mention: as you commune with nature--as your fore-hominids did for hundreds of thousands of years--watch out for demons, goblins, elementals, fallen angels, sprites, and a certain sarcastic fellow in a long black coat on a Harley.Don't take candy from strangers, either.*Derivative. The original, "sex, drugs, and rock and roll" is generally considered superior.

Faith, truly intending no offense, let me say this made me laugh out loud: On the other hand, iano, if it's been a while...

OK now I'm going to get all stodgy picky and inform you that you read it wrong. It goes like this:Gee Ian, you are a very gifted evangelist. Usually it takes longer to know what you know and apply it so well.

God is gracious - he let me keep that after much modifying my behaviour. I use it for transport and pleasure now - instead of as a weapon

Interesting; do you believe in demons and angels (fallen or not)? The only understanding I have of them is from the bible, which is not to say that the bible is wrong in everything it teaches; recently, when I do read it (usually because someone has struck up a debate via email) verses that meant something to me as a Christian, mean something different now. The restriction that I once felt seems to be gone.So, are there these creatures that we can only see with our spiritual eyes? So far, despite my willingness and desire, I have seen nothing. Maybe I subscribed to Skeptical Inquirer for far too long.

Just another name, Theosophists have another name as well. I like Jar's post, when he stated that any description of God is a human construct. Makes sense if God is really the life energy (whatever that means) of the Universe, that He/She/It resides in all things, causes all things, etc. How could any of us accurately describe such a being (even to refer to It as a 'Being')?

A believer? 4 and a bit years. It was all rather sudden. I think it was the contrast between the dark place I had been at (in retrospect) and the suddeness of the light that had me straight off telling folk about it. I had no reason to think that they wouldn't be delighted to hear. Talk about naive One of the things I heard early on was that God doesn't subsume or destroy a believer, he just turns who they are, their talents and abilities - in his direction. I was an argumentitive, talkative, opinionated little git before ... and I still am now. If that's how evangelists get made then that's what I am. It's true that I like nothing better than talking to folk who don't know God, about God.Sometimes I do wonder about coming on here though. The time absorbed does interfere with other areas of my walk - including prayer life - which wouldn't be as strong as I would like. (I do pray especially for some here but it never occurred to me to pray for you! My pleasure). And so much opposition...Though it can at times get me down, I am inclined to remember what I was like immediately prior to that day - kicking and screaming against it with all my might. And I think to myself "Sure, what else are they going to do!"

My wife and I do not smoke in the house, so we go outside, usually on the front porch. If I'm out there alone, I'll focus on something on the porch and try ot move it; I would probably have a heart attack if it actually worked.If such a thing is possible, I wonder if it is based on faith? Does one have to believe that they can move something in the first place? If I want to move a pencil, I just pick it up with my hand and do it, no faith or concentration is required; is it the same way when I don't physically move it or do I need to focus?Not it is important to me, I have no desire to base my beliefs off of tricks or anything like that.

Quite easily Hal. If God can reveal himself to a person then they would have accurate knowledge: whether he was a being or an it. And what he/its characteristics where. - accurate that is, to the measure of the revelation.You cannot accurately describe my face - because it hasn't been revealed to you. Poke around the threads and you'll find a picture of me somewhere. You can now accurately describe my face

I haven't followed this whole subject of trying to move objects with your mind but why do you want to do this? Are you trying to prove something?I definitely do not want to get into it in detail but this actually happened to me a few times during the period between believing in the supernatural and coming to Christ. That is, the mere energy of my mind affected objects on a couple of occasions, broke a porcelain object in one case, almost hurt another person in another case. I didn't know what I was doing, I wasn't trying to do it, but it wasn't too hard to figure out what had happened because of the circumstances, and it clearly had to do with the concentrated energy of my mind. I knew people who were TRYING to do that, practicing on killing cockroaches for instance. Soon as I figured it out I worked on AVOIDING doing it. What would it prove if you could do it? It's not a good thing. It has nothing to do with spirituality.This message has been edited by Faith, 01-21-2006 09:28 AM