I am fully convinced of the existence of what I Kant named , "designed effect" in the Critique of Judgement but the place where this notion could have been brought in at the conference but does not seem to have occurred is where you reported,
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Nelson’s message was primarily that there is strong evidence for multiple independent origins life and that abiogenesis and Darwinian evolution are at major odds with each other.
The designed effect as an effect IS biased to original earth extrapolations of life and there can still be some prior human design even if there is life orginiating randomly in more than one place in the systematic constiution no matter what the debate about a univers's center and edge is or is not.
I do not understand why Creationists have not attempted to read Kant backward in explaining there right to exist. That much seems uncensorable by science fearing religion in the appearence of authority nor by govt giving freedom to the LOWER faculty.
It is not a position that main line scientists miscognize the double nature of the cause and effect here.
It seems doubled because two material diretums substitute where the "struggle" is in form for shape not the base fudamental elements. Thus G. Gladyshev seems very perceptive from
THE SECOND LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS AND EVOLUTION OF LIVING SYSTEMS
Georgi P. Gladyshev*
International Academy of Creative Endeavors
San Diego, USA — Moscow, Russia
N. N. Semenov Institute of Chemical Physics, Russian Academy of Sciences
ABSTRACT
The classical formulations of the second law of thermodynamics are presented. Some mistakes in the understanding the physical meaning of this general law of nature are noted. It is asserted that many misunderstandings of the second law of thermodynamics are related to terminological confusion and the underestimation (the disregard) of the theory developed by J.W. Gibbs and other founders of "true thermodynamics,
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I would like to note that the quotations presented below do not pertain to the second law of thermodynamics in its classical form [2, 9, 10]. Today, they may seem surprising, especially taking into account that all this was written several years after Gibbs published his works.
For example, Boltzmann (1886) wrote,
"The general struggle for existence of animate beings is therefore not a struggle for raw materials - these, for organisms, are air, water and soil, all abundantly availablenor for energy which exists in plenty in any body in the form of heat (albeit unfortunately not transformable), but a struggle for entropy, which becomes available through the transition of energy from the hot sun to the cold earth.".
see also likewise
http://www.endeav.org/evolut/
This message has been edited by Brad McFall, 07-08-2005 09:59 AM