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Author Topic:   Global Warming... fact, fiction, or a little of both?
gene90
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Message 66 of 113 (244499)
09-17-2005 10:38 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by RAZD
09-17-2005 12:18 PM


Re: Who is stirring the pot, changing equilibriums
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I agree that the jury is still out on this hypothesis (and likely will be until such a seminal event occurs?).
I plan on keeping an eye on it.

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gene90
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Message 74 of 113 (244939)
09-19-2005 1:42 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by 1.61803
09-19-2005 12:51 PM


Re: Who is stirring the pot, changing equilibriums
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The weather is the weather and it will change. Look at some 0f the trends in the past...Some very very hot days in the distant past. Like on this day in 1908 it was 124 degrees in Podunk Texas etc... More CO2 in Earths ancient atmosphere than even today.
3 Ice ages. Theorhetical snowball Earth..my goodness Holmes whats a planet to do?
This is certainly true, in that climate will always be changing if we influence it or not.
However, it's important to remember that just because previous climate changes have been natural does not necessarily mean that all climate change must be natural. I've encountered a lot of intelligent people that tend to confuse that point.

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gene90
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Message 76 of 113 (244948)
09-19-2005 2:37 PM
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09-19-2005 2:28 PM


Re: Who is stirring the pot, changing equilibriums
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On the contrary, if Homo Sapiens sapiens are a natural consequence of Earth and the Cosmos then who's to say anything that humans affect is un-natural.
Oooh, a philosophical point that I think bears some consideration.
I've always thought that from a purely objective standpoint the definition of "pollution" is rather odd. When humans release toxic substances it's pollution. When an alleopathic plant like sagebrush dumps natural herbicides into its surroundings, it isn't pollution.
The oxygen crisis back in the Precambrian wasn't pollution, either for that matter.
However, it should not be forgotten that people, unlike plants and algae, can alter their effects on the environment to accomplish a purpose.
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gene90
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Message 80 of 113 (245155)
09-20-2005 11:49 AM
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09-20-2005 5:51 AM


Re: Who is stirring the pot, changing equilibriums
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That's a problem, but not more problems than it solves, which is what you said and I questioned. I'm not sure that nuclear waste is necessarily more frightening than quality of life problems generated by fossil fuel usage.
Here is a very interesting little essay hosted by the gov't. The point is that when it was written, coal-fired power plants were releasing more radioactivity into the environment than nuclear plants that operate within Federal guidelines. (Uranium and thorium like to chemically associate with carbon out in the wild).
Page Not Found | ORNL
I think I should point out, though, there is a trend for coal power to clean up its act these days.
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