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mike the wiz
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Message 1 of 59 (39703)
05-11-2003 12:38 PM


crashfrog i have a question ..
recently a creation scientist was saying that fossils are fantastically well preserved , in the rocks. also he was suggesting that these creatures hadn't been eaten away by worms bacteria e.t.c , like corpses are today . he was saying that this was one of darwin's problems .He was also talking about the complexity of orchids and how darwin said some orchids evolved to look like bees and had evolved with bees through natural selection as they depended on the bees to pollenate them.this creationist scientist then took some of his own orchids to australia and they survived without the bees , he said this blew darwin's theory away, i agree with him whats your view?

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mike the wiz
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Message 4 of 59 (39737)
05-11-2003 4:20 PM
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05-11-2003 1:22 PM


Did the orchids simply live under the creation scientist's care or did they survive and reproduce without assistance?
i think he said they did reproduce without assistance , he was saying something about their incredible complexity, the six gun orchid , which is incredible , it shoots the bee and then it will go off to another plant and stick to it and pollenate it , anyway i've forgot this scientists name but i must say his arguements were very convincing

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mike the wiz
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Message 11 of 59 (39854)
05-12-2003 9:15 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by crashfrog
05-12-2003 7:39 PM


ok the evos have jumped on me , but to be honest i was only asking peoples view. the full story is at Sucuri WebSite Firewall - Access Denied i feel evolutionists have only been told one half of the story .
( i am ending my replies here!)
Adminnemooseus says "the above link won't work for me. Try Sucuri WebSite Firewall - Access Denied instead".
[This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 05-12-2003]

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mike the wiz
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Message 15 of 59 (39974)
05-13-2003 5:28 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by nator
05-13-2003 9:02 AM


'Mike, how many science courses have you taken? '
its amazing the huge reaction i get when people start to feel insecure .
my point was that most evos havent heard the creation evidence i have , because they ask me silly questions when they are losing arguements.
as for your question, i have not taken these courses because your so much more cleverer than me which means i have no right to have an opinion! lol

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mike the wiz
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Message 20 of 59 (40003)
05-13-2003 8:09 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by joz
05-13-2003 6:42 PM


'As for the rest you have the right to an opinion, the rest of us also have the right to correct you when you bollocks something simple up and point out that maybe, just maybe, if you took a few courses, read a few books, whatever, you might be able to form an educated opinion and not need correcting all the time.... '
you have just proved my point ,by swearing and suggesting i read books e.t.c however i will not lower myself to swearing back at fools.
'why? Because the "evidence" that we are told refutes "evolutionism" is usually uterly uncompelling, ad hoc, downright lies or any mixture of the above....'
oh , show me this evidence , however dont expect me to change my mind.cos i have heard it all before , and oh er remind me where i messed up because i dont recall doing this,i simply was asking for some opinions!!!

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Message 22 of 59 (40007)
05-13-2003 8:26 PM
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05-13-2003 8:14 PM



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mike the wiz
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Message 24 of 59 (40010)
05-13-2003 8:38 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by NosyNed
05-13-2003 8:34 PM


Re: Evidence
'You get to pick the very best ones rather than us picking the absolutely worst ones. That seems fair.'
this just prooves you want to play scoring games

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