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nator
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Message 8 of 59 (39796)
05-12-2003 8:58 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by crashfrog
05-11-2003 6:22 PM


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Science moves forward and sometimes leaves even great men behind.
...or women.

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nator
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Message 14 of 59 (39920)
05-13-2003 9:02 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by mike the wiz
05-12-2003 9:15 PM


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i feel evolutionists have only been told one half of the story .
I am willing to bet, at least on this board, that the evo side has read a helluva lot more creationist work than the other way around.
I mean, My husband and I own at least a dozen Creationist books, have gone to Creationist talks, have read loads of Creationist literature.
I have taken several college level biology and anatomy courses, and a philosophy of science course, and my husband is a brain scientist about to get his PhD.
Mike, how many science courses have you taken?

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nator
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Message 39 of 59 (40214)
05-15-2003 9:18 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by mike the wiz
05-13-2003 5:28 PM


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its amazing the huge reaction i get when people start to feel insecure .
It's not a matter of insecurity.
You just assume that we haven't heard these questions of yours (or something very similar) before, because it (seems to be) all brand new to you.
Believe me, Creationist arguments haven't much changed in decades. The questions you are asking have been thoroughly answered, complete with evidence and references to the professional literature, on this board and others many, many times.
quote:
my point was that most evos havent heard the creation evidence i have ,
Did you even read my reply?
MY point is that we HAVE heard the Creationist side.
Not only have we heard it, we probably are better informed about the Creationist arguments than the Creationists who state them, including you.
quote:
because they ask me silly questions when they are losing arguements.
Oh, cut the crap.
How do you figure the evos are losing any arguments? I don't recall you providing much, if any, evidence to support your claims.
That's how scientific arguments are won, dear. With evidence, not with repetition of claims.
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as for your question, i have not taken these courses because your so much more cleverer than me which means i have no right to have an opinion! lol
It isn't a matter of cleverness. I am sure you are clever.
It is a matter of education versus ignorance.
How on earth can you feel intellectually comfortable rejecting practically all of modern Biology without having ever taken a single introductory Biology course, let alone one specifically dealing with Genetics or Evolution or Paleontology?
Ignorance and arrogance so often are found together.

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nator
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Message 40 of 59 (40217)
05-15-2003 9:29 AM
Reply to: Message 34 by Quetzal
05-14-2003 8:56 AM


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After all, over 300 "well educated doctors, scientists, and Ph.D's hailing from every major accredited university in the world" named Steve fully embrace the theory of evolution.
It's also true that one Nobel Prize-winning Harvard Psychology professor believes in alien abductions, too.
Does that mean that alien abductions are true?

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nator
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From: Ann Arbor
Joined: 12-09-2001


Message 41 of 59 (40219)
05-15-2003 9:37 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by Fencer
05-15-2003 7:49 AM


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Better that you go back to making feces piles.
Gosh, you are really winning my respect for your well-reasoned arguments and careful citations to the professional literature.
For a new poster (and Creationist), you sure seem to be skilled at staying calm and sticking to discussing the facts rather than making distracting and irrelevant personal attacks.
Most creationists who come here tend to make a lot of those personal attacks in the mistaken belief that they somehow win argments about scientific matters that way.
Makes you kind of chuckle, doesn't it, thos people acting like angry knuckleheads, eh?

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nator
Member (Idle past 2201 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
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Message 53 of 59 (40395)
05-16-2003 8:56 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by Quetzal
05-15-2003 9:59 AM


OK, I won't tell you that I hadn't heard of Project Steve.

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nator
Member (Idle past 2201 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
Joined: 12-09-2001


Message 54 of 59 (40397)
05-16-2003 9:06 AM
Reply to: Message 49 by Fencer
05-15-2003 4:55 PM


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If it were only my life's goal to win your respect ...
I like that line, though. Shakespeare could've used it in one of his tragedies.
Well, if you want to convince anyone that you are interested in informed, intelligent debate, you might take more care to behave like a grown up.
As for the rest of my reply, I've got to ask...you did get that I was sarcastic, right, and that I believe you to be behaving in an opposite way to the "compliments" I was giving you, right?
I believe that you are lowering, not elevating, the quality of discourse and debate here.

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