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Author Topic:   Partial recall: science fiction for the evolution/creation debate
Plinketyplunk
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Message 1 of 8 (418062)
08-26-2007 5:54 AM


I found this science fiction book, Partial Recall, at Lulu Logo (by writing it myself). It's free to view and download, so you can read it for yourself. Here's the blurb:

    This is the story of a time machine. Not your conventional time machine that disrupts the physical universe by sending people into the past to change the present and spying on the future. This is more your regular utility time machine for the mundane task of showing what happened last year. It turns out, people missed some stuff, and they would like to know - after the fact. They will pay. There will be lots of them. There will be an army of people operating the machine.
       What changes when you really know what happened last summer? What is the use of a machine that can tell you what happened last week, but can't tell you what is happening right now? However, even with limits, it is possible to turn the universe on its head.
       You can read the whole book on the preview, and then buy it for your mom.

So, since we're all discussing evolution and creation, here's a contribution to the debate (although, if you're sharp, you'll notice how many posts I have made).
   I reckon people choose sides based primarily on their emotional appreciation of the evolution or creation stories, and much less on a logical evaluation of the evidence.
   I say it's well worth a read. But I am biased.
Edited by Plinketyplunk, : Hey, I see you can provide reasons for editing! That's nice!

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Percy
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Message 2 of 8 (418178)
08-26-2007 8:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Plinketyplunk
08-26-2007 5:54 AM


You held my interest, not easily accomplished. If the rest is as good as the first four or five pages, you might consider pulling it off the web and seeking a real publisher.
--Percy

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crashfrog
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Message 3 of 8 (418309)
08-27-2007 12:06 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Plinketyplunk
08-26-2007 5:54 AM


Sounds like Clarke and Baxter's Light of Other Days, where a dot-com billionaire invents cameras that can view any location in time and space (in the present and past.)

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Taz
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Message 4 of 8 (418373)
08-27-2007 9:23 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Plinketyplunk
08-26-2007 5:54 AM


Reminds me of a sci fi book I read some months ago. It was about time travel and the study of dinosaurs.
The point of the book is that even in the far future when time travel is a common use to study the past, like how the pyramids were built and the various organisms of the far past, a group of creationists train people from a very young age to make them "scientists" so they could infiltrate the time travel agency and plant evidence throughout the ages to make it look like people and dinosaurs lived together. These fake scientists knew the mechanics of time travel and all of that and they still believe that the Earth was only 6,000 years old. They were brainwashed into believing that no matter what evidence they encounter.
So, after a few successful campaigns, some of history is rewritten because fossilized dinosaurs were found with humans that were also dated to millions of years old. The creationists' goal is to completely invalidate all scientific methods of dating samples.
Off the top of my head I can't remember who the author or what the title of the book was. It was certainly an interesting read. Even today, we see creationists downright lie right through their teeth to try to make people as ignorant as them. The author explored the possibility of this creationist pattern of lies and self-deception by introducing a time machine into the equation.

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Taz
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Message 5 of 8 (418375)
08-27-2007 9:36 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Percy
08-26-2007 8:05 PM


Percy writes:
If the rest is as good as the first four or five pages, you might consider pulling it off the web and seeking a real publisher.
A well known science fiction writer (Piers Anthony) once said:
So when Brad Linaweaver asked for a story for his Off the Wall anthology, I sent him two: "E van S" and "Nonent." He accepted both, which shows that he'll never become an editor in real life, because though it is obvious that he didn't read them, he doesn't know that it is an editor's job to reject, not accept.

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Plinketyplunk
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Message 6 of 8 (418481)
08-28-2007 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by crashfrog
08-27-2007 12:06 PM


(I'm putting all my replies here - why's there an Edit button, if not for that)
Thanks Percy for the rave-review of the first pages.
I didn't know about Clarke and Baxter's book (thanks crashfrog).
Tasmanian Devil, that book sounds interesting - a little different, in that it is about invasive time travel - but an interesting plot. (I wonder if maybe the future creationists have "already" been at work )
Hey kongstad, thanks for the link to podiobooks - I was thinking about doing a read-by-the-author recording, but having an idea of what to do with it makes it a much more practical idea. Of course, to be truly practical, I'll have to repair the microphone that certain little kids destroted...
Edited by Plinketyplunk, : No reason given.

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Taz
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Message 7 of 8 (418497)
08-28-2007 1:47 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Plinketyplunk
08-28-2007 12:01 PM


Re: Good feedback
Plinketyplunk writes:
I wonder if maybe the future creationists have "already" been at work
Hahaha I haven't thought of that.

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kongstad
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Message 8 of 8 (418498)
08-28-2007 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Plinketyplunk
08-26-2007 5:54 AM


Why not podcast?
Just downloaded the book.
Have you considered podcasting it? With just a little equipment, and a lot of time you can record it and have it promoted at for example
http://podiobooks.com
It has been known that authors got published after podcasting their novels. The most wellknown example would be Scott Sigler

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