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Author Topic:   Youtube videos on Evolution vs Creation
teen4christ
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Message 1 of 11 (460943)
03-20-2008 3:05 PM


Part 1

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Message 2 of 11 (460944)
03-20-2008 3:05 PM
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03-20-2008 3:05 PM


Part 2

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Message 3 of 11 (460945)
03-20-2008 3:07 PM
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03-20-2008 3:05 PM


Part 3
Anyway, you get the idea. It goes up to part 11. Have fun watching these.
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Message 5 of 11 (460956)
03-20-2008 3:58 PM
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03-20-2008 3:38 PM


Re: Pure unadulterated garbage!
Well, I guess the question I have, especially to creationists, is how many lies can you spot from these videos?

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teen4christ
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Message 11 of 11 (462838)
04-09-2008 8:16 PM
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04-09-2008 2:45 PM


The Wise One writes
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Of course, creationists will choose to believe the science-illiterate evangelist, because they still haven't learned that ignorance doesn't work.
Having grown up in a very religious household, I'm pretty sure I have an explanation for this.
As far as the religious mindset is concern, science have one very significant disadvantage when compared to religion. When was the last time you heard a scientist or a scientific organization claiming to know "truth" or have a monopoly on "truth"?
I was raised in a setting where "truth," whatever it may be, is valued above all else. If I haven't had the education and encouragement to investigate these matters, I would have said that religion is superior to science simply because religion knows the truth while science stumbles in the dark and changes all the time. In fact, when it was made public that Hawkings lost the bet to his colleague regarding black hole physics a few years back, I remember my father coming home all excited because he finally had the evidence that scientists really didn't know what they were talking about and that the unchanging nature of religion clearly made it superior to science. I also remember several telegangelists using this as proof that science was inferior to religion because religion knew what "truth" was while science did not.
I know what I just explained doesn't make much sense to the non-religious since one of the strongest elements of science is its ability to change in the face of new evidence. But you really have to try to understand it from the perspective of one that grew up in a setting that valued "truth" above uncertainty. And frankly, science essentially boils down to uncertainty, whether the uncertainty itself is small or large, while religion is about being 100% sure and right ALL the time.
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I knew exactly where she was coming from when she advised against taking the word of scientists.
Again, there is no deceit or malice here.
Christianity, like all other religions... like all other entities, has the instinct to survive. I am reminded of an episode in stargate sg-1 where our galaxy is invaded by replicators. At this time, lord baal has dominated much of the goauld domain. Instead of treating the replicators like what they are, which are non-thinking machines that will react more violently if provoked, the goauld treats them like other goaulds. As the tokra explained, baal is treating the replicators as simply another goauld competitor so he's using the same strategy he normally would use against other goaulds, which is be agressive and attack constantly. Baal doesn't realize that the more he attacks the faster his forces will fall to the replicators.
The point is Christianity, or at least the conservative elements of it, is treating science like another religious competitor even though science is a completely different beast. No matter how much grounds they lose from one generation to the next, these Christian conservatives continue to treat science as just another religion trying to invade its territory. They don't realize that the more agressive they get with the same old strategy they used to win over other religions in the past the more grounds they will lose. Personally, I don't know if this is a good thing or bad thing.
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I don't mean to sound arrogant, but who is better qualified to judge the accuracy of K-Ar dating, an evangelist who reads creationist literature and has never taken a physics or geology course in his life or a Ph.D. in isotope geochemistry (who may also be a devout Christian) who has spent 25 years studying K-Ar dating in granites?

Ah, but you see, the Ph.D. in isotope geochemistry who has spent 25 years studying K-Ar dating in granites does not know truth while the evangelist who reads creationist literature does.
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