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Author Topic:   Do animals have an Afterlife?
Straggler
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Message 8 of 16 (463225)
04-13-2008 2:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Marc
04-09-2008 11:36 PM


What Counts as an Animal?
Hiya Marc. Welcome to EvC
DO animals have an afterlife?
What do you include or exclude with the term animal? Do insects have souls? Do fish? Do slugs and snails have an afterlife?
Would you expect a minimum level of intelligence/consciouness for something to warrant an afterlife? On what basis do you make this conclusion (if this is indeed what you have concluded)?
Personally I don't think there is an afterlife at all (for animals or humans) but I was wondering what you thought and how much you had considered your current conclusion?

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Straggler
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From: London England
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Message 11 of 16 (463259)
04-14-2008 5:36 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by teen4christ
04-14-2008 12:02 PM


Re: What Counts as an Animal?
You really ought to apply the word "soul" to the context of what Marc was talking about. He didn't mean the soul in the sense of consciousness measured by human conception of intelligence. He meant the soul as the essence, or the being, of an animal that remains in existence even after the physical death. Doesn't really matter how smart or dumb they are. I really don't think Marc intended this to be a deep philosophical analysis of what constitutes a soul.
Well I wasn't sure what directio he did intend the discussion to be taken in and I am not sure you do either.
If we are considering an afterlife for animals then the question as to what is meant by 'animal' seems fair enough.
If someone has concluded that animals do have an afterlife - Do monkeys have an afterlife? rats? snakes? slugs? Is the animal afterlife full of dinosaurs? grasshoppers? fish? tadpoles?
What exactly is included in the animal afterlife and what is not? What basis is this decided upon?
This is all I am essentially asking.

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Straggler
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Message 15 of 16 (463362)
04-15-2008 5:05 PM
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04-14-2008 5:53 PM


Re: What Counts as an Animal?
You are reading far too much into my question.
All I am trying to do is get Marc to think about what he actually means when he says that animals have an afterlife.
What sort of answer do you think would be appropriate?
PS - I too like the idea of an afterlife full of dinosaurs and other extinct creatures. If I were to believe in things because I like the idea of them I would definitely believe in just that.

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