The LHC was not working with nothing. It was working with existing particles that were manipulated by entities that also aren't nothing, by a machine that isn't nothing. Nothing comes from absolute nothingness. For somebody that prides himself as a pragmatist, I was sure that logic would win out. My point being that you can't successfully attempt to usurp simple logic with a sleight of hand. And you can't invoke this as evidence against a legitimate
That same something exists as particles only when being measured/observed. You cannot wrap your head around it with simple logic. It takes a bit more than that but is comprehensible as long as you are aware what an observer really constitutes.
First Cause anymore than you could legitmately assume abiogenesis.
First cause works in our macro world(in our perception and why is it so - no one knows, ask the creator). At deeper levels, stuff can arise from nothingness breaking the First Cause principle. Abiogenesis works in our peculiar state of mind, no at the quantum level. At the quantum level, there never was any abiogenesis. Some will say it's qounter-intuitive, I'll say it's fucked up, it all boils down to how your human mind will react to mind-challenging concepts.
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