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the principles of world view

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Huntard
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01-23-2009 5:31 AM 		Reply to: Message 1 by homunculus
01-22-2009 2:18 AM

Hi homunculus, welcome to EvC.
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It seems you've got a very wrong idea about what evolution is. It's not a philosophy, it is a fact and a theory of science. NOTHNG in evolution tells you how to live your life, that's a matter that's wholly seperate from it.
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Huntard
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01-28-2009 1:15 PM 		Reply to: Message 20 by John 10:10
01-28-2009 12:40 PM

John, you've been here quite some time now, in any case long enough to know that this:
John 10:10 writes:
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In reality evolution is a scientific theory which is supported by multiple connecting theories of how life in the universe may go from nothing to something. It is in no way, shape or form considered "factual evidence", as is the case for most other scientific phenomena, where scientific principles can be proven to be true to a high degree of accuracy in a laboratory or by experiment.
Is not true. Evolution has NOTHING to do with how life began, it IS observed, both in the lab and in the wild, and IS therefore supported by "factual evidence".
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Creation and the creation story of the Bible is how the God of the Bible has revealed and minifested Himself to man. Only unbelievers would turn this around and say we are dictating to God what he did.
Tell that to Ken Miller. Oh, and if you don't know who that is: here you go
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Huntard
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01-29-2009 1:47 AM 		Reply to: Message 22 by John 10:10
01-28-2009 6:32 PM

{ABE} I realized this is not on topic here, this is the last I'll say on this, find another post if you want to criticize evolution. this one is about the (supposed) effect evolution has on one's world view.
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John 10:10 writes:
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I stand corrected. Evolution is a belief system that doesn't know how matter came into existance, nor how life sprang from inanimate matter, but has faith that it somehow did,
Wrong. Life could've been started by god, evolution doesn't care.
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then somehow began the natural evolutionary process of evolving over millions/billions of years into all types of living plants and animals, from which man somehow evolved.
The somehow is known. It's called mutation, natural selection and genetic drift.
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Putting aside how matter came into existance,
Which has nothing to do with evolution.
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this overall evolutionary process has never been observed or proven to be true to any high degree of accuracy in any lab or in the wild, as are most other scientific principles.
Wrong. Evolution HAS been observed in the lab and in the wild, as has speciation.
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Have certain plants and animals adapted themselves to certain climate changes and natural selection techniques, and had minor changes in their anatomy? Yes, but not to the point where the genetic structure of their genes are entirely affected, thus creating and evolving into entirely new species of plants and animals.
ou don;t need "entirely new genetics" to be considered a new species. Chimpanzees and humans are a different species, and their DNA only differs 5% or so.
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When you can prove that in a lab or show that it happens naturally in the wild, then you will have some "factual evidence" that you can call science.
Since Evolution is the change in genetic make up in a population over time, and this has been observed, I wonder why you keep repeating this lie.
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Edited by Huntard, : added {ABE} bit, + spellings
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