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Phat
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Message 16 of 40 (639244)
10-29-2011 12:15 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by jar
10-28-2011 7:40 PM


Responsibilities of mentoring prisoners
jar writes:
Too many Christian groups act as "chaplains" or "counselors" in prisons and go there to "take the Good News of Christ" instead of going to feed, comfort, educate, clothe. In reality, they are nothing more than another way for the State to avoid providing the help that the prisoners really need and instead simply peddle platitudes and word salad.
I visit as a mentor to a local youth prison. I have been doing so for over ten years, and while I have made my share of mistakes...I have also learned a lot from the discipline. At first, I used to go to "preach word salad", as you so cleverly put it. Volunteers have a limited amount of time to spend with their charges, and while educating them is an option, many are not ready for the discipline needed. Treating an individual is a holistic endeavor. Many of these youth come from families that have had generations in prison. The system is broken, that much we can agree on.
I seek to establish a rapport and a level of trust with my charges, which can often take several months of visits. I often attempt to educate them in the basics of planning for the future when they will be out. We often discuss such topics as the sociology of their current environment, global competition and the necessity for education in America, the responsibility of bringing kids into the world, the charge and responsibility of a spiritual life, and some strategies for planning...which I usually encourage them to initiate. Each individual is different, of course, and I always have to question my own motives for volunteering and attempt to do the best that I can at it...but quite frankly, in a broken system, they will not get better opportunities than I.
add by edit: Took out my offensive jab and personal attack on jar
Edited by Phat, : edited my mouth

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Phat
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Message 17 of 40 (639245)
10-29-2011 12:19 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Rahvin
10-28-2011 7:54 PM


Root Causes
Rahvin writes:
the solution is to address the root causes of crime in the first place, and help criminals such that they can see a promising future without resorting to crime.
I fully agree, but in an era when states are cutting budgets as is, the solution appears unlikely...given cost restraints.

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Message 19 of 40 (639248)
10-29-2011 12:32 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Omnivorous
10-28-2011 9:18 PM


Re: "If you ain't got the do re mi, boys..."
Omni writes:
Rahvin, you've come full circle to the connection I see with OWS--economic injustice creates a criminal class, and that injustice follows that class throughout their prison experience. For many prison alumni, their first prison experience is a brutal radicalization--not a political radicalization, but one of deep, abiding rage against a world that first denied them opportunity, and then denied their very humanity.
I can't help but remember when I was on a rant about shoplifters at my local safeway and you pointed out some of the legitimate reasons they may have to steal.
Its easy for society to wish to lock up those who threaten us, but the long term solutions start with empathy(not sympathy, mind you) and a plan of genuine rehabilitation, if it is possible. Granted, its not easy.
We cant undo a lifetimes programming with one year of Parole classes.

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