Prometheus WTF?*spoilers*

Well I shelled out my 10 bucks to see Prometheus in 3D.Although visually stunning on such a grand scale I was left rather puzzled.One of the cop out quotes from a character was the reason she believes in God is because "that is what I choose to believe."
Circular?The Uberhumans seeded Earth with their DNA through a act of sacrifice of that first Uberman drinking that goo. What is not explained is why they decided later it was a good idea to annihilate humanity through the use of super nasty infectious, parasitic creatures.The movie was entertaining on a visual level, but left much to be desired in the story telling. To many unexplained loose ends left me wondering at the end what was the point.If the point was to scare the audience with the universal fear of a foreign organism invading your bodily orifices, then points made on this note.The main message I took away was that curiosity killed the cat.Any other forum members get some other profound message in this movie? Thumbs up? Thumbs down? How could it been improved? Sequel anyone? (Coffee House)

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I was both disappointed and pleased by the Space Jockeys.I thought the design was Titanic (in the literal sense of being like a Greek Titan), they really looked like our perfect progenitors and the eyes were "beautiful" for lack of a better word.However I was a bit disappointed when we found out what was thought to be their skull was actually a helmet and that they were humanoid, kind of a let down from their Lovecraftian feel in the first film.Basically I was disappointed they were humanoid, but it was a cool humanoid design.

Why is the "alien" lifecycle so utterly inconsistent? We've seen crustacean-like facehuggers, serpentine facehuggers, and a giant conservation-of-mass-defying cephalopod facehugger. We have facehuggers that spawn more facehuggers through host incubation, and then finally an alien birth. The entire Queen > egg > facehugger > larval alien chestburster > adult alien lifecycle seems to have been replaced with a random toss of the dice. Seriously, "black poison goop" ingested by a male somehow causes a female to become "super-pregnant" (at least there was intercourse, but still, what?) with a tentacular facehugger of titanic proportions?Why did the "Engineers" leave a starmap on Earth leading to their super-secret biological WMD repository? This doesn't sound nearly as dumb after the previous.WTF was up with one of the "scientists" becoming a weird super-strong zombie after a facehugger attack and having his helmet melted to his face with acid?Why was Weyland an idiot?I enjoyed the film while eating popcorn. I enjoy it less while thinking about it. Doing so seems to make my brain hurt. Edited by Rahvin, : No reason given.

I definitely agree.
Goo -> Bad sperm -> Octopus -> Massive Octopus -> proto-alien.
It was just completely random.I also thought it was funny when Elizabeth ran out after having a major operation only to have the following conversation:Weyland: Hi, want to head out to see the Space Jockeys, I'm not concerned by the fact that you have staples in your stomach.Elizabeth: Sounds cool, I notice that doctor I just beat up is helping you. Anyway, must get my suit.

Weyland was portrayed as amoral, I wasnt surprised that he didnt much care about the recent surgery.What had me rolling my eyes was the idiocy of "they designed us, maybe the know how to fix us." So what, totally amoral jackass Weyland freezes his geezer ass on a spaceship in the hopes of meeting an alien species that just maybe might be not only knowledgeable enough to "fix" old age, but also sufficiently altruistic to do so for essentially nothing? It's not like his Earth money is going to have an exchange rate with the "Engineers." And he even clung to this belief after they had already discovered that they had actually found what amounts to a military base for the aliens.It would have been a better idea to stay frozen and have some scientists work out how to upload his consciousness into an android body, since David proves that Weyland had already solved the problem of age - design a better body. Hell, that body could even survive decapitation as a mere inconvenience! I want to be a David!

Long, long Alien fan.Very hurt and confused. After many yeas of poor Alien franchise ( AvP I'm looking at you!) that nice Sir Ridley is only gonna do it right!Or not, as the case may be. In no particular order.Star Map: do the Engineers really give us a map that can only be used many, many years later? Why not keep us on file and come back later?Engineer weapons fab: if it was 'all that' why leave it after the outbreak? Why not come back in big ol' powered armour (that's creatures 9 foot tall who look as if they could mix it up with Predators). Send some shlubbs in to recon the joint a reclaim the assets, rather than leave all that expensive bio-ware laying around, up for grabs by other space going races (us).Wake up the Engineer: straight out of Engineer hyber sleep it has no adjustment issues, no stress over all it's dead comrades. It just kills every thing it can see and then goes off to carpet bomb Earth.Bio hazard thousands of years ago: but it is all tidied up and the goo is put away nicely. No trace of larger organisms, no bio containment protocols stored in the same system as the easily accessible astrogation data. Random holograms must be a better way to record things than reviewable old fashion 2d images with sound.Elizabeth's reasoning: 'I have a ship that could be backwards engineered to give humans a decent chance of technological parity with the Engineers (by all all accounts as technologically stagnant as the Star Wars Univers). But by God (my cross, my cross!)! I need to to find answers!' When David said he did not understand her reasons I was agreeing with him. I honestly could not understand her reasoning: is she going to go into the dark woods to track down that sound that was obviously Jason?Grumpy geologist/biologist duo: 'I've had it, let's get back to the ship!'Grumpy geologist/biologist duo: 'Mind you, don't forget how to use those tracking drones as we make our way outside following the telemetry your high tech drones have provided us with.Grumpy geologist/biologist duo: 'How come we're not outside and back at the ship before Elizabeth and David?'.Grumpy geologist/biologist duo: 'Blimey! This alien tube going down my throat can only evoke images of impregnation with a lethal embryo. I can't imagine me being forgotten by the plot and my grumpy associate, apparently dead from too much face acid turning into superhuman killer and returning to the ship to become a bullet proof monster who needs to kill till he dies from too much fire (never have pulse riffles: flames all the way).Elizabeth's man: 'Where's that android? I need to be rude and cruel to him enough that he will poison me with goo.'Elizabeth's man 2 ' Damnit I'm fine. Leave me alone. I'm all right. I'll make it. Burn me to death.'You know, I could go on: the ridiculous Weyland's motivation for returning to the obviously deadly Engineers weapons fab. The daughter's null role in the film. Obviously evil android (scientists: for goodness sake, don't make androids!!!!!!!!!)Cylons, Ash's, evil Biahops, that one with Kirk Dugless, the list goes on.....It looked nice, though (apart from the muppet at the end that would have been so much better as a propper Alien).Edited by Larni, : No reason given.Edited by Larni, : No reason given.Edited by Larni, : No reason given.Edited by Larni, : No reason given.Edited by Larni, : No reason given.Edited by Larni, : No reason given.Edited by Larni, : No reason given.Edited by Larni, : All this editing is my drunken way of making sure what I write makes sense. There; I've said it.

Scientists create engineered lab mice and then destroy them in experiments all the time. I see this as something similar but on a much bigger scale.

But they could have done it far easier by lobbing kinetic missiles at us.All this convoluted bio weaponry seems really involved.

The Big Giant Head in that big room of undefined purpose is also confusing. We don't place statuary in our nuclear missile silos, for example.

That scene reminded me of one of the Planet of the Apes films.I may be humanopamorphosising but a weapons fabrication facility would have pretty logical security protocols that (for creatures with 100% our DNA), should actually mak sense (from our perspective).I imagine and big old heads seems incongruous with a smoothly working facility.I know that one can tear any sci fi film apart (except The Terminator and Aliens, of course) but I expected more from Sir Scott.Edited by Larni, : No reason given.

I left the cinema with an overwhelming sense of being underwhelmed.Many times during the film I questioned the motivation and reasoning of the characters.
But, as I thought about it more, I realised that it was much worse than that.
It was little more than a procession of random events, devoid of any explanation or logic.Here's a list of web-sites that provide different lists of plot holes and inconsistencies:
Page not found - Movie Plot Holes
Prometheus: 20 Blunders That Ruined The Film
Prometheus: what was that about? Ten key questions | Ridley Scott | The GuardianAnd I will leave it to Ridley Scott to show how directionless the film was...

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Movies.com: "Is that first planet in the prologue Earth?"

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Ridley Scott: "No, it doesn't have to be. That could be anywhere. That could be a planet anywhere. All he's doing is acting as a gardener in space. And the plant life, in fact, is the disintegration of himself."

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My biggest gripe with the movie is the characters have no common sense. For example, when a big-ass round thing rolling your way, instead of running in a straight line along its path, you should probably run sideways out of its path to avoid it.My buddy and I recently chopped down a tree. When the tree fell, we stepped out of its falling path. We didn't just run in a straight line away from it. We took a side step.

I agree the space Jockey was a great image. And it ties into some of the early Mayan carvings of proposed space jockeys. As soon as I saw the Prometheus trailer and saw a image of the jockey I was like, "OOOHHHHHH I gotta see that movie! Its gonna explain soooo much!" NOT.

Yeah, It would of been better if the Scott stuck to the original design of the xenomorphs rather than succumb to the pressure of making the aliens more bizarre and larger. I do not think one can improve upon the original Giger designs imo.