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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Fundamentalists have never said that you should take all of the Christian writings as Gospel, just that you have to take all of the books declared to be Gospel by their particular chapter of Club Christian as Gospel.
And not all Gospel is equal. The pieces parts of Gospel taken out of context by Their Chapter of Club Christian are more Gospel than the pieces that other Chapters of Club Christian say are Gospel. All Gospel is Gospel but some Gospel is more Gospel than others.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Just like all Gospel is Gospel but some Gospel is more Gospel than other Gospel some folk are in more communion with the Holy Ghost than others who are in communion with the Holy Ghost.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Ringo writes: Dawn Bertot writes:
They didn't refer to every book in "the" canon either. You might as well say that Japan didn't exist because neither Jesus nor the apostles mentioned it.
Neither Jesus or the Apostles quoted or refered to Apocryphal books, even though there were some present at those time periods. Actually Jesus and the Apostles seems to have referenced books that did not even make it into the Apocrypha like The Book of Enoch.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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We would be better at detecting whether or not the material was actually written by the alleged author than anyone living 1900 years ago.
We know more, have better techniques and far more experience.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Other than trying to Palm the Pea and misdirect attention; other than misrepresenting and lying about what I actually said, it seems you have no response to what i posted even when you quoted what I said.
Did I or did I not say "We know more, have better techniques and far more experience."?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
We have almost two thousand years additional experience seeing how mythos grows and is created. The New Testament tales are all different, the authors seem to simply repeat others materials, key components like the Great Commission evolve and mutate over time and different authors modify the story, then there is the revisionist author of John who markets a totally different religion.
Did I or did I not say "We know more, have better techniques and far more experience."? Edited by jar, : hit wrong keyAnyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
That we have an additional 1900+ years of experience is not an assertion, it is a statement of fact.
That there are contradictions in the gospels is not an assertion, it is a statement of fact. That the Great Commission evolved is not an assertion, it is a statement of fact, and a great example of contradictions and just plain old fashioned carny marketing as i have shown you before. And yes, I too am an Episcopalian just like Spong.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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RAZD writes: The article cited treats Jews and yoga teachers as authorities on the subject, which ought by itself to show the claims to be bogus, certainly from a Christian point of view. By the same (logically false) argument, any religious claims regarding evolution are necessarily bogus ... because "jews or yoga teachers" (or christians) can't be authorities on the subject of evolution, certainly from a Scientific point of view ... Not to mention the small matter that Jesus was a Jew, not a Christian.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
No, it is not like that.
Jesus was a Jew, not a Christian.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
A person can be presidential yet not president.
Christian is the label of a religion and does not mean "Christ like". A hint might be that they are two different words and the fact that many atheists are Christ like while many Christians are most definitely not Christ like..Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
More unsupported assertions Dawn
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Your original intimation was that Christ could both be himself and not be himself at the sametime. I'm sorry but that is simply another example of you lying. I never said or intimated that. I said that Jesus was a Jew not a Christian. Christianity did not even exist at anytime while Jesus was alive and in fact for hundreds of years after he died.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Again, what you post has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, and is just silly. Even if Jesus was the Messiah that says nothing about whether or not Christianity existed at the time or whether Jesus was a Christian instead of a Jew.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You forget all the other independent lines of evidence.
The pay records and manifest of the vessel show who was hired and onboard. The people on the Topaz and their report to the Admiralty. The report sent to the Admiralty by the flotilla under Sir Thomas Staines. The wreck of the Bounty that is still there. The DNA of the Pitcairn Island inhabitants itself. Note that all of these and many more are separate, independent lines of evidence. There is nothing comparable when looking at the stories found in the Bible.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
jar writes: The wreck of the Bounty that is still there.
Dawn writes: This would be comparable to the trail of accuracy concerning the scriptures No, sorry but that is nonsense. Your "trail of accuracy concerning the scriptures" is evidence of nothing except that some tales were copied accurately. They offer no evidence that the stories themselves ever happened. The Bounty shows that the vessel really did arrive at Pitcairn and was scuttled at Pitcairn.
jar writes: The DNA of the Pitcairn Island inhabitants itself.
Dawn writes: Compared to who? Eyewitnesses that no longer exist? Yes, of course. The DNA of the original mutineers who settled on Pitcairn was transmitted to their descendents and can be compared to living relatives in England. It is the same way paternity is determined or that the recent find was identified as Richard III.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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