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Author Topic:   A Question for edge about Overthrusts and Subduction
Faith 
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Message 1 of 2 (721636)
03-10-2014 1:22 PM


Perhaps the thread about Why the Flood Didn't Happen should not have been closed yet. Edge's summary statement raised more issues than it answered and I'd really like to have more of a discussion about them, or just more of an explanation from him.
Due to time constraints, I wish to only address Faith's contention regarding deformation confined to lower strata in an active tectonic environment.
With all due respect to one's belief system, actual research and reasoning should trump wishful rationalization.
The normal interpretation of deformed strata below undeformed strata is that the younger rocks were deposited after deformation and erosion of the lower strata. In fact, any other intepretation is hard to comprehend. the only exception is where there is some kind of detachment of the upper strata along which there is lateral motion. This would include overthrusts (which most YECs vehemently deny), obduction (which rasies the issue of convergent tectonic boundaries and subdution, another bogeyman for YECs), or some form of soft sediment deformation which is pretty well understood by mainstream geologists.
Any of these include major forms of evidence which refute Faith's premise. In all cases, deformation decreases with depth below the boundary. In virtually all cases, there is evidence of dislocation along the boundary such as breccias, mylonite, repeated stratigraphy, etc. Regardless of what professional YECs say, it is possible to find such features in every case of overthrusting or obduction. Maybe not at an individual site, but somewhere along the boundary there will be evidence. And we haven't even discussed what happens above the dislocation boundary.
In summary, the notion is rather silly in light of what is actually known about the rocks.
I'm not making this a Proposed Topic because I don't have a lot to say about it, I'm just interested in hearing more about edge's thinking here. I didn't know that YECs object to overthrusts, for instance, and I don't know why. From what I know about them, which isn't a lot but at least I'm aware of the diagrams of them you can find through Google Image, I see no problem explaining them from a YEC point of view. Seems to me all such buckling of blocks of strata must have been the result of tectonic lateral force, which from a Flood perspective would have occurred after the Flood or at the very end of it.
I also can't imagine why YECs would object to subduction, I certainly don't.
So all I really want from this post is for edge to explain what he wrote above since I don't see any reason why YECs would object to any of it or how edge considers anything about these phenomena to be refutation of the YEC point of view.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 2 of 2 (721637)
03-10-2014 1:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Faith
03-10-2014 1:22 PM


Not a Coffee House Topic
Closing this until there is a topic proposal.

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