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Topic: On the evolution of English as a written or spoken language.
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jar
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Message 1 of 88 (596236)
12-13-2010 10:53 PM
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One problem with language is that English is, as anyone can sea, a very elusive tongue. When a gnu word or phrase comes along it is readily added two the body of language. English can be as light as heir or as heavy as led. It can be soft as flower sifted through your fingers. It often can be only understood when red in context and many associations can be maid as the language grows. Know one can really tell when something is knew or simply an adaptation of what others new already. It flows along like the see, wave upon wave two the end of Thyme. I wood wish that it was easier four the audience to understand but fore many it is like trying to see the trees threw the would or the flour in the meadow. When I wright I always try to make sure that the spelling is write, however bee four warned that I often make mistakes. Bear with me and try to judge what is fare. Life is a slim read and bends in the wind; hear today, goon tomorrow..
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 22 of 88 (596330)
12-14-2010 11:34 AM
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towards some topic
The goal, if there was some goal beyond trying to satisfy a whim of da moose, was to try to illustrate some of the problems non english speakers might have with what we so jokingly call our language. Read aloud, the paragraph in the OP is almost correct and grammatical. As written it is giberish; word salad.
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jar
Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 25 of 88 (596335)
12-14-2010 11:48 AM
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Reply to: Message 23 by dwise1
12-14-2010 11:45 AM
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Re: "Ghoti"
So question. Unlike many languages, is English a classic example of Evolution, whatever is good enough to just get by, as opposed to Design, languages created to meet a given standard?
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jar
Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 29 of 88 (596345)
12-14-2010 12:54 PM
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Reply to: Message 28 by Panda
12-14-2010 12:47 PM
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Re: "Ghoti"
Natural Selection is pretty obvious, many words and terms simply disappear, do not survive, or get new uses.
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jar
Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 32 of 88 (596354)
12-14-2010 1:57 PM
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Reply to: Message 31 by Panda
12-14-2010 1:52 PM
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On Natural Selection of the English Language
Natural selection is why they disappear, get new uses. The Natural Selection in language is the population that uses the language, that selects what survives and does not survive. Edited by jar, : fix subtitle
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jar
Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 35 of 88 (596357)
12-14-2010 2:15 PM
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Reply to: Message 6 by dwise1
12-14-2010 1:58 AM
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long long ago
Long long ago in a land far far away, I worked as a computer programmer for some marine biologists. In talking to one about his programs database and reporting needs, he mentioned that one thing that was very important was to track the mode. "Oh.", said I, "easily done and I will provide the mean and average as well as mode." "No!", said he, "I want the mode used, for example, from the dock, in a boat, in the surf, with net, with rod and reel..."
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jar
Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 43 of 88 (596382)
12-14-2010 4:53 PM
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Reply to: Message 37 by Panda
12-14-2010 2:54 PM
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Re: On Natural Selection of the English Language
Surely the population (as a whole) is the environment. Surely? It is the filter, what does the selecting of what is in and out. And what is Natural Selection biologically other than the environment as a whole?
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jar
Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 57 of 88 (596723)
12-16-2010 4:50 PM
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Reply to: Message 56 by Jon
12-16-2010 4:48 PM
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Re: To Be or... To Be
We still need to figure out where the irregularity came from in the first place; figure out why certain words are more subject to the processes that produce irregularity than are other words. Why?
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jar
Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 60 of 88 (596734)
12-16-2010 5:32 PM
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Reply to: Message 59 by Jon
12-16-2010 5:16 PM
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Re: To Be or... To Be
Possibly, but I don't see that as very important. But I'm still at the level where I am unsure whether written English and spoken English are the same language. Baby-steps я Us
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jar
Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 85 of 88 (761140)
06-28-2015 4:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 84 by RAZD
06-28-2015 3:59 PM
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Re: Uniculturalism
RAZD writes: The international language of science is broken english. I thought that only applied to seismology and collider physics?
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