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Author Topic:   With a dying white race, why are we not encouraging more white births?
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Message 178 of 237 (774986)
12-26-2015 1:49 AM
Reply to: Message 177 by Hyroglyphx
12-26-2015 1:16 AM


Not sure why you are addressing that post to me since I already said I don't think race is the issue, rather it's about culture in relation to what I think is GIA's real concern, which is the success of western civilization. I also said as far as race goes there is a casual definition of the "white race" that we can all identify so your specifics are really irrelevant. And I've many times discussed the concept of race in terms of microevolution, just FYI.

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Message 180 of 237 (774988)
12-26-2015 2:27 AM
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12-26-2015 1:55 AM


I was talking to Coyote, not GIA.
Well, there is such a decline, simply defining the white race in the casual terms I mentioned. We don't need technical terms to define it. "Europeans" will suffice as a synonym, and we're talking essentially about European culture, not race anyway. However, just speaking of race according to the usual casual understanding, there's plenty of information out there about the changing racial percentages. Here's one I just turned up: The New Republic
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Message 182 of 237 (774993)
12-26-2015 4:13 AM
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12-26-2015 2:38 AM


Um, Islam doesn't want the free society the west created, they want oppressive Islamic law. Or off with their heads.
And Communism doesn't want the free society either, they want everyone to conform to Communist objectives. Prison or execution in that case?
Might also point out that the RC Church doesn't want the free society either, should they resume their medieval power at some point. We'll all have to subscribe to Catholic dogma or be subject to the Inquisition.
Believe it or not it's tyranny, totalitarianism, that's replacing western civilization. Toward the New World Order of course, which will be major Global Totalitarianism telling us all what to do. Or else.
Ah well, dear Hyro, you are very nave.
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Message 185 of 237 (775004)
12-26-2015 6:52 AM
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12-26-2015 6:48 AM


There are moderate Muslims but the religion isn't moderate even if some don't follow it strictly.
I've been reading and hearing a lot about how the RCC operates, which you wouldn't know about because you aren't reading and hearing about it. You speak from silly bias and total ignorance. Ever since the Reformation knocked them off their European power pedestal they've been plotting to get it back, and making a fair amount of progress despite appearances.
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Message 187 of 237 (775009)
12-26-2015 7:15 AM
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12-26-2015 7:04 AM


Oh good grief.
Sigh.
If you become a Protestant believer you will be restricted in your ability to sin, which is up to you anyway -- it's between you and God, all your co-religionists will do is excommunicate you if you're unrepentant. If you don't become a believer Protestants don't restrict what you do, don't behead you, don't throw you in prison, don't torture you on the rack.
Sigh.
I could answer the rest but it makes me tired.
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Message 190 of 237 (775014)
12-26-2015 8:20 AM
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12-26-2015 7:31 AM


dup
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Message 191 of 237 (775015)
12-26-2015 8:21 AM
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12-26-2015 7:31 AM


lf-restriction is an expression of freedom. Restricting others because of Theocracy is absolutely antithetical to freedom. You want to self-restrict from gay marriage because it goes against your beliefs. That's your choice and your freedom. It becomes an issue when your beliefs trump the freedom of others...
Yeah, you don't get this either, of course. It's the legalizing of gay marriage that is restricting US, not the other way around. We cannot treat "gay marriage" as legitimate, that would violate the Christian conscience. THEY however can do as they please, only they insist on forcing US to serve gay marriage. Get it straight. WE are not restricting THEM, THEY are restricting US by depriving us of freedom of conscience, suing us for acting on our conscience in refusing to serve a "gay marriage."
You understand absolutely nothing about Christian belief if you think there's anything in the Bible that requires restricting NONBELIEVERS in any way. You were never a Christian because you never understood anything about it. You can't tell the difference between the HISTORY of ancient Israel and the COMMANDS of Allah to readers of the Koran to murder "infidels."
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Message 192 of 237 (775016)
12-26-2015 8:50 AM
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12-26-2015 7:18 AM


Re: Question on the OP
West Europeans (including Italy) saw the Ancient Near East (essentially Egypt, Palestine, and Mesopotamia but absent Greece)as their heritage until Italians discovered the Greek language and the libraries next door in Constantinople-hence the "renaissance" of classical learning and a recognition that they were heirs to Greece.
This is so garbled I really have no idea what you are talking about. The only thing that's true in it is that yes the writings of the Greeks were discovered at some point and became the foundation of the Renaissance.
The Catholics (and the Popes) were the source for institutional funding of the rebirth in learning Greek, and they also brought chairs in universities to teach Hebrew, Aramaic, etc. Italy was the "alma mater studiorum" for post-graduate studies in the entire European world. This went on for some 200 years until the "counter-reformation" around c1500 (Im going by memory of what I read)
Yes it was the RCC that supported the ancient pagan writings. The Counter Reformation started in 1545 FYI.'
Your info about the Arabs is also garbled. According to Islam Christians and Jews are subject to taxes and humiliations in Muslim countries, and the Barbary (Muslim) pirates said that according to their religious texts they had a right to kidnap Americans.
Catholics used philosophy to defend the Bible (and their doctrines) against critics.
The Catholics hardly ever bothered about the Bible at all before the Reformation. Priests were the only ones who had access to it and often even they didn't. RCC doctrines were based on sheer superstitions and Roman paganism, and then Aristotle became their hero. It's more like they read the Bible in the light of Aristotle than that they used Aristotle to defend it.
'(and there were a lot of ethnic-semitic critics and they had something of a voice in Venice I think). The popes uses Thomas Aquinas' writings (c1100) to excuse away the prohibition of non-kosher food in Acts 15:20,29;21:25 (or around there). He invented the "cultic/ceremonial law concept" and divided law into national Israelite laws, moral laws, and ceremonial laws. That's why Catholic (and their Protestant followers) Christians commonly beat pigs over the head with a hammer to kill them and eat them. (or shoot them or whatever).
Aquinas was a follower of Aristotle.
I've always understood that animals are to be killed mercifully according to the Bible, but "Kosher" is Jewish, not Christian.
The renaissance saw Catholics dethrone Plato as their favorite philosopher and elevate Aristotle. Aristotle was used to defend Christian views of the resurrection. Philosophers had to be careful to support Christian doctrine though. They used a loophole "the two truths" if their study of philosophy led to promoting a view that was contradictory to doctrine.
Catholic doctrine is not Christian, the Reformation rediscovered the Bible and threw out all the Catholic doctrinal nonsense.
Protestants supported Hitler in higher numbers than Catholics in the 1930s election (and more protestants voted for Hitler than his ally the Christian Democratic party).
The Protestant Church was an apostate mess due to the Liberal Theology that had developed in Germany in the 19th century, so that Hitler was able to manipulate them. However, I've heard the opposite, that it was the Catholic Centre Party that voted in Hitler. Hitler was himself a Catholic and he had the Pope of the time on his side, said he modeled the Holocaust after the Inquisition. That same Pope is known for having organized the "rat lines" that provided escape for thousands of criminal Nazis after the war, mostly to Catholic Countries in South America.
The admiration for Hitler seemed to be because he had views that seemed to come straight from Luther. (Hitler did deem some protestants as anti-nationalist and he rounded them up with Gypsies, Communists, Jews, etc.
Yes, Hitler made use of Luther's diatribe against the Jews, although it had lain dormant since Luther wrote it.
There were some remaining true Christian Protestants who didn't give in to Hitler.
The enemy list included Jehovah's Witnesses, 7th Day Adventists, and even Mormons as people whose loyalty he questioned) Jews supported socialists and communists in the election because they were more into equal rights. Ho Chi Min became a communist because every other party in France was only in favor of French rights. He was heart broken when he found out that the French Socialist party was only in favor of worker rights based on race. The equality for all, regardless of race, that Communists promoted was what he admired.
Which is a huge joke. Communists murdered more people for opposing them than all the religious persecutions combined. Equality, Ha!
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Message 195 of 237 (775020)
12-26-2015 9:03 AM
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12-26-2015 8:55 AM


Re: Warning
OK, but then be even-handed about it. Go back and read what he's accused ME of.

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Message 222 of 237 (775077)
12-27-2015 1:50 AM
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12-27-2015 1:05 AM


The Bible is demonstrating that God punishes sin and it's completely within the Bible as history. And there's only one place killing babies is mentioned and it's because the Babylonians had done that to the Jewish babies so it's the recompense of war. Not that you care what was done to the Jewish babies, right?
And you don't care that it's history with a point to teach whereas Allah actually commands murdering people in the world now where there is no provocation, no war, nothing but a difference of viewepoint. Allah tells his people to kill people now, just because they are "infidels" which is why that's what they are doing. You sound like any atheist. You were never a believer really.
You can tell God you disapprove of His punishing sin when you see Him.
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Message 223 of 237 (775078)
12-27-2015 2:27 AM
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12-27-2015 1:50 AM


I can find only one reference to dashing babies against stones and that's Psalm 137 where it is talking about paying back Babylon for their devastation of Jerusalem, and it's not God who is talking, it's the psalmist:
O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.
But you apparently can't read in context. It's probably one of the very few lines you even know from scripture, never having read the Bible when you were a so-called believer.
I'm no hypocrite, but you are a self-righteous know-nothing, especially if you think there's any comparison whatever between the Bible and Islam.

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Message 225 of 237 (775080)
12-27-2015 2:37 AM
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12-27-2015 2:34 AM


You are confusing justice with murder.
No matter how sincere you were, you were apparently deceived about being a Christian. It's not about sincerity, it's about believing certain things and you seem not to have believed those things. You said for instance that you became a Christian because you admired Jesus' "ideals." That is so far from a Christian belief it's a dead giveaway that you were deceived.
If I get suspended for telling the truth, so be it.
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