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NoNukes
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Message 11 of 29 (792036)
09-30-2016 6:25 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by jar
09-30-2016 5:53 PM


And Congress seems to forget that no country commits acts more often that most certainly could be the basis of a lawsuit than the US.
In the days since overriding the veto, several Congress critters have thought about some of the consequences and are blaming Obama for not engaging them prior to his veto. I find those claims absolutely bizarre. I have yet to hear of a downside that I and everyone else did not understand prior to the bill passing.
Congress Now Blaming Obama For Its Embarrassing Override Of His Veto | HuffPost Latest News
"Congress Now Blaming Obama For Its Embarrassing Override Of His Veto"
From Mitch McConnell.
quote:
By the time everybody seemed to focus on some potential consequences of it, members had already basically taken a position.
So the inability of Congress to act adult is the president's fault? eFFing moron.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

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NoNukes
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Message 19 of 29 (792101)
10-03-2016 1:48 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Pressie
10-03-2016 5:24 AM


Re: Retrospective laws?
Can a country like the US make retrospective laws to be enforced today?
It was never legal to conspire to fly planes into buildings. What is at stake here is attaching civil liability to a loss of life/property and extending jurisdiction where it may not have existed previously. Not really an ex post facto thing.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith

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NoNukes
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Message 22 of 29 (792127)
10-04-2016 4:20 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Pressie
10-04-2016 8:47 AM


Re: Retrospective laws?
Why pass those laws now if they don't change anything from before?
I don't understand your response. In my post I mentioned two things that were changed by the law; jurisdiction and the attachment of a civil cause of action to something that was already illegal. So the law changes things. What the law does not do is make anything that was legal a new crime.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith

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