Trump's order on immigration and the wacko liberal response

It's one of the themes we're getting a lot of in this country's lurch to populism - that the Courts should reflect the will of the people.Should they hell ! They should uphold the letter of the law without fear or favour. They should uphold the country's constitution in the face of torrents of abuse and criticism. They should be utterly impartial and utterly professional.If they are mouthpieces of the government, or even of the people, then mob rule replaces the rule of law.I know you get this, NoNukes - but it's worrying just how many people believe that the Courts should simply take decisions which reflect popular opinion.

Look at it this way. The fact that the Courts take decisions which we sometimes don't like has a positive angle - it means there's a strong and viable rule of law in our country.People disagree with each other. I disagree a lot with you and vice versa. It'd be a pretty crappy situation if I won every argument and you lost every argument. And vice versa there too.Not winning every argument is a good thing. Reminds us that other folk have differences of opinion, and that we shouldn't always win against them.

Actually no - it upholds a far more important principle - the rule of law.A country tends to sway between conservative and liberal positions over time. What's utterly vital is that the rule of law survives that.

Hi Faith.The full text of the decision is posted above - and I'm led to understand that the decision was unanimous and that one of the three judges is a Republican nominee.Does this go any way to persuading you that there might be some conservative opinion which believes the order was unconstitutional ? I'm not asking you to change your mind on the issue itself - but do you acknowledge that even some conservatives hold a different view to yours ?

From Trump's speech yesterday:"For many centuries the Middle East has been home to Christians, Muslims and Jews living side-by-side. We must practice tolerance and respect for each other once againand make this region a place where every man and woman, no matter their faith or ethnicity, can enjoy a life of dignity and hope."Practise what you preach ?

Well, I disagree with that, but to come back to a point I made earlier, this is a quotation from you earlier in this thread: How do you feel about Trump's speech, separating the minority of terrorist murderers from the vast majority of peaceful Muslims ? He's acknowledging, accepting even celebrating Islam in that speech. Has he got that wrong ? Is he lying ?

So on balance, you feel he was lying about his true views as to Islam ?