The Totalitarian Leftist Tactics against the Right

This is an example of rightest PC thinking. You don't have to know anything except that discrimination because of differentness is wrong.--Percy

I'm on neither the left or right. I'm a social liberal and a fiscal conservative. For example, I'm against Trump's transgender executive order and for his proposed changes in corporate taxation. I am not automatically against anything Trump, but it doesn't take a person of great perspicacity to see that his populist agenda and financial acumen are infused with large elements of highly impulsive and conspiracy-laden thinking.About the other subconversation, if you don't want to be thought of as bigoted and racist then all it takes is ceasing your bigoted and racist comments. If anyone here were asked who is the person at EvC who least embodies Christian principles they'd all give the same answer. You're convicted by your own words. If you were to stop defending Trump's actions and the religious right's positions and instead began defending actual Christian principles then views of you would change rapidly. But your entrenched attitudes seem to override any empathy you might have, and so time and again you're caught making the most hateful and abhorrent statements ever made here.--Percy

Sure you have, all the time. It's what you do. For example, tell us again how it's okay to discriminate against LGBT's if it's part of your religious beliefs. I think I just disproved this statement, and I don't have a leftist mindset. What I have is a "treat others as I would be treated" mindset. No, what I'm doing is thinking like anyone with compassion and empathy. Except that no hate is being expressed by anyone but you.And yes, we know, any Christian who doesn't share your particular religious beliefs is a false Christian. You don't have to keep reminding us. I hope you're not holding yourself up as the archetype Christian. That would be scary. "Murderous ideology"? Whatever are you on about? Would that be any ideology that isn't yours? No - we think it's racist and bigoted to hate your fellow man. But it is by you. Your words speak for themselves. Ah, denial, gotta love it.--Percy

The only place anything is being confirmed is inside your own head. I'm not a leftist. I just don't hate everybody who's not like me, and that makes you think I'm somebody you have to call names. Your video is an hour long. You really need to begin giving time and length of the portions you want people to listen to. I don't even have a spare hour to watch videos I *want* to watch, I'm certainly not going to spend an hour watching a random Internet video suggested by someone with your degree of crazy.But speaking of your OP, how does a movement that is in the minority at both the state and federal levels become totalitarian? I think maybe you don't know what totalitarian means.--Percy

Words don't mean whatever you want them to mean. What you're describing is something more like "contemptuous," or maybe more critically, "supercilious". Nope, still wrong. Like I said, I just don't hate my fellow man the way you do. You can't deny it, all you can do is invent excuses.--Percy

Attitudes of the left feel so much more powerful, influential and effective to you because they align with both reality and basic moral principles. It isn't a "PC mentality" you're battling against but basic facts and humanity. While the right has gained political power by appealing to human weaknesses like greed, fear and paranoia, their arguments fail when met with empathy and truth.--PercyEdited by Percy, : Grammar.

Faith clarified her position on the transgender bathroom issue in Message 72 when she said: --Percy

I wasn't sure which little girl Aussie was referring to. Coy Mathis was the little girl you mentioned in Message 69, then there's this photo of Corey Maison that has been posted several times: But that still leaves unclear why Faith is confused, since why does it matter which transgender little girl Aussie means, they're just examples to illustrate the principle that people should use the bathroom of the sex they identify with. I agree with Faith that people should use the bathroom of the sex they look like. For example, this photo has also been posted a couple times: If this person is a man then he belongs in the men's bathroom. If he's a woman then he still belongs in the men's bathroom. I'm definitely going with gut feel on this one. If someone who looked like a woman walked into the men's bathroom it would freak me out, no matter what was under the clothes or what sex they thought they were.--Percy

There was no attack on you. You are again imagining things. What I did do is criticize your ideas, like your delusion that you're believing something confirms it, or that we're all leftists, or that the left is totalitarian. Stop playing the ad hominem game and start discussing and defending your ideas with actual evidence. Genomicus's reply was entirely apropos in trying to get you to finally understand that both sides have the ability to draw upon low quality highly questionable evidence, but you're the only one here who doesn't realize that and continues using such evidence anyway.Please stop posting videos where you can't possibly have any idea of the religion or intent of the people shown, or even what is happening. The first people to flee a war zone are women, children and families, while criminals would be the last to leave since they can take advantage of the chaos. We all know and agree that there are terrorists out there, but Europe is not in chaos and terror and hasn't been since World War II. The vacation destinations being cancelled right now are New York, San Francisco and Los Angeles, not London, Paris and Rome, and that's because Trump is scaring the hell out of the world by making the United States seem a frightening and terrifying place.--Percy

The rule that you want, where people use the bathroom where they best "fit in", was pretty much the Obama set of guidelines. Trump issued an executive order rescinding those guidelines. You truly don't see a problem that the guidelines you think made the most sense are now gone?--Percy

I said women, children and families, but I should have been more clear. The point I meant to emphasize is that families make up a significant portion of immigration. You can see that families must represent a significant proportion of immigration into Europe in this graph: This is for 2015 immigration into Europe and can be found at this webpage. Notice the number of children, and that the number of males and females is approximately equal. I can think of only one reason why someone would think calls for compassion, empathy and truth were a scathing attack. And you're the one holding yourself up as an icon of victimhood and Christian belief. If you don't want to get called on it then don't claim it. There you go making your own attacks again, accusing people of willful misinterpretation. No, Faith, you do not know the provenance of the videos. You don't know who made them or who is in them. You don't know how much truth or falsity they contain. Provenance is why people rely on the mainstream media. Like McDonald's, they may not be exactly what you want, but at least you know what you're getting. With your videos you have no idea. I'm not moderating this thread. If you want moderator help post to Report Discussion Problems Here 4.0.--Percy

That's the question I keep asking you, why do people have to put up with your name-calling and opinions about them personally. Why can't you just go with the evidence - actual evidence, not your silly videos. Get some statistics that support you. Respond to the actual evidence that is posted to you, instead of ignoring it and posting more silly videos. If you're going to insist on posting videos then they should be from known responsible news sources. Your conspiracy claims that all the governments and respectable news outlets of Europe are in cahoots are absurd. The people who actually live in Europe are also telling you you're wrong.--Percy

Like I really meant literally gone. Uh, yes they did. A number of states were considering legislation that would have restricted LGBT bathroom access. What really happened was that Trump issued an executive order rescinding the Obama guidelines that protected LGBT use of the restrooms of their gender identity. This means that that state legislation I just mentioned can go back into the pipeline. Like Faith, I think you need to look up totalitarianism. Laws affect people, that can't be helped, but it doesn't make a government or the political party in power totalitarian. The question is whether LGBT's should have the right to use the bathroom of their gender identity, or whether other people's right to have their bathroom used only by people of their physical sex overrides. Whichever way current law sways, neither side is totalitarian.--Percy

This might not be correct. By no means do I know the details, but "separate but equal" was part of the Jim Crow laws, not that the "equal" part was much honored.--Percy

This would be true if you're thinking of special cases such as establishments like bars when they have drunk patrons, but otherwise, no, not even in Merry Olde England.--Percy