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Faith
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Message 451 of 527 (802413)
03-16-2017 9:43 AM
Reply to: Message 447 by RAZD
03-14-2017 10:43 AM


Lots of equipment can have surveillance ability
Hasn't anybody here heard about these things?

These Devices May Be Spying On You (Even In Your Own Home)

[qs] Think you are safe in your own home? These innocent-looking devices may be spying on you, or performing other nefarious actions:

Your television
Your Kitchen Appliances
Your DVR/Cable-Box/Satellite-TV Receiver
Your Modem (and Internet Service Provider)
Your Smartphone
Your Webcam or Home Security Cameras
Your Telephone
Your Lights, Home Entertainment System, and Home Alarm System
Your Thermostat (Heat and/or Air Conditioning)
Your Laundry Equipment
Your Medical Devices
Your iPod or Other Entertainment Devices

http://abcnews.go.com/...ess/household-products-spying/story

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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Message 452 of 527 (802414)
03-16-2017 9:43 AM
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03-16-2017 8:42 AM


Re: KelLynConjob does it again
with cameras

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Message 453 of 527 (802415)
03-16-2017 9:45 AM
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03-16-2017 9:43 AM


Re: KelLynConjob does it again
Of course we have heard of them and for the most part, laughed about them.

And most also understand the simply precautions that should be taken. We are not all as clueless as Donald Trump.


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Message 454 of 527 (802419)
03-16-2017 10:54 AM
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03-16-2017 9:45 AM


Re: KelLynConjob does it again
Actually such spying is a deal. But it's limited to the capabilities of the device, so your thermostat could be telling the commies what temperature you like. And there are refrigerators with internal webcams so you can check if you need mayonnaise when you are at the store.

Generally such IoT devices are much more of a threat because they typically have lousy security. Several of the recent DDOS attacks were from botnets consisting almost exclusively of infected IoT devices.


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Message 455 of 527 (802420)
03-16-2017 11:04 AM
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03-16-2017 9:43 AM


Re: Lots of equipment can have surveillance ability
Oh my god! My dryer is telling WalMart what size jeans I wear?

If I dry a smaller size pants will it also let Pizza Hut know so to fool them into e-mailing me some discount pizza coupons?



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Message 456 of 527 (802421)
03-16-2017 11:08 AM
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03-16-2017 9:45 AM


Re: KelLynConjob does it again
And most also understand the simply precautions that should be taken.

That explains the tin foil hats on my friend's toaster oven and vacuum cleaner.



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Message 457 of 527 (802428)
03-16-2017 11:52 AM


Rachel Maddow
Rachel Maddow has joined Geraldo, of Al Capone's vault fame with a vast nothingburger.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.


  
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Message 458 of 527 (802432)
03-16-2017 12:03 PM
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03-16-2017 9:43 AM


Re: Lots of equipment can have surveillance ability
Faith writes:

These innocent-looking devices may be spying on you, or performing other nefarious actions:


People are already shovelling their personal information onto Facebook so fast that the CIA can't read it all. Nobody needs to hack your toaster.
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Message 459 of 527 (802447)
03-16-2017 2:54 PM
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03-16-2017 12:03 PM


Re: Lots of equipment can have surveillance ability
Ringo observes

Faith writes:

These innocent-looking devices may be spying on you, or performing other nefarious actions:


People are already shovelling their personal information onto Facebook so fast that the CIA can't read it all. Nobody needs to hack your toaster.

That's our best hope - glut them all with endless terabytes of endless twaddle. TMI!


- xongsmith, 5.7d

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NoNukes
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Message 460 of 527 (802452)
03-16-2017 3:00 PM
Reply to: Message 451 by Faith
03-16-2017 9:43 AM


Re: Lots of equipment can have surveillance ability
quote:
Your television
Your Kitchen Appliances
Your DVR/Cable-Box/Satellite-TV Receiver
Your Modem (and Internet Service Provider)
Your Smartphone
Your Webcam or Home Security Cameras
Your Telephone
Your Lights, Home Entertainment System, and Home Alarm System
Your Thermostat (Heat and/or Air Conditioning)
Your Laundry Equipment
Your Medical Devices
Your iPod or Other Entertainment Devices

Those things might well leak information, but some of it is not worth worrying about. If you buy networked appliances, you are trading off security versus some level of convenience. For me that has not reached my kitchen appliances or my laundry equipment. For the rest of those things on the list, yes, I am well aware of what can be gotten from those things.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King

I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson

Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith

Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000


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Message 461 of 527 (802453)
03-16-2017 3:07 PM
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03-16-2017 3:00 PM


Re: Lots of equipment can have surveillance ability
There are even devices out there whose sole purpose is surveillance and people are buying them without that fact being disclosed.

Edited by jar, : forgot about home


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Message 462 of 527 (802471)
03-16-2017 5:44 PM
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03-16-2017 3:00 PM


Re: Lots of equipment can have surveillance ability
I don't want my refrigerator pirating porn at night.
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Message 463 of 527 (802494)
03-17-2017 7:41 AM
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03-16-2017 8:42 AM


Re: KelLynConjob does it again
I'll bet the elfs sit on shelfs eating loafs of bread they cut with knifes.

--Percy


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Dr Adequate
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Message 464 of 527 (803028)
03-22-2017 11:33 PM


Philip Stallings
This guy's conspiracy theory involves the Illuminati, gay marriage, the Zika virus, geo-engineering, "chemtrails", abortion, wars in the Middle East, GMO's, multiculturalism, vaccines and the flat Earth, because why not?
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Message 465 of 527 (803071)
03-23-2017 2:08 PM
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03-22-2017 11:33 PM


Re: Philip Stallings
This guy's conspiracy theory involves the Illuminati, gay marriage, the Zika virus, geo-engineering, "chemtrails", abortion, wars in the Middle East, GMO's, multiculturalism, vaccines and the flat Earth, because why not?

I like this guy. Far too many nutters will ally themselves with any other nutter who questions the 'official story'; even when their ideas are clearly in flat contradiction to one another. Not Stallings. A lot of his blog is dedicated to criticising geocentrists, creationists and biblical literalists who, nevertheless, believe the lie of the round earth. Uncompromising commitment to the cause.

ABE: My respect is slightly lessened after reading some of the comments. He spends his time focusing on fundamentalists not because of a rigorous commitment to truth, but because he sees talking to anyone else as a waste of time.

quote:
You obviously are now arguing from outside the authority of the Bible which has led to this problem in the first place. I will not waste my time with someone that is rejecting the very standard by which we determine truth.

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