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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
But the headline is not a lie.. Nor is it insulting. It's a simple statement of objective fact.
But acknowledging that not all headlines about Trump are lies would be acknowledging your exceptionally silly error, and you just cannot do that.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Is a written report evidence for the truth of its contents? Pick one:
YesNo Oh crap, I've shot my foot while it was in my mouth. Again.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Nobody's going to watch 53 minutes of a self-confessed non-newsman. Got anything to say? Say it.
Hey, got any names of people who've called for Trump's assassination? Didn't think so.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Ah, must be this. Nothing the ultra-right loves more than violence.
Hannity Unhinged: Dog Whistle To Violence Edition quote: *Lie, of course. Home ownership is recovering from a 51-year low: There's a simple reason the percentage of people owning a home is at a historic low. And the other benefits he claims are unlikely to happen of just not going to happen: Kansas' tax cuts are a spectacular failure. Meanwhile, in California ..., GOP Tax Plans Would Emulate Failed Kansas Experiment. Trickle-down economics failed for Reagan, failed for W, failed for Walker in Wisconsin, failed for Jindal in Louisiana, and really really failed for Brownback in Kansas. But this time for sure, amirite?
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I didn't watch the video. Do you or he have any objective facts to discuss?
(ABE} Links to the claims about beating people up, please. There are a few leftist nutjobs and there has been some leftist violence. Such violence is wrong no matter who commits it, and I condemn it. But it's a huge leap from a few incidents to a nationwide conspiracy. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
As I said, he showed a couple of Democrats being interviewed on TV news, saying there is no evidence of Trump colluding with Russia. OK, what Democrats and what exactly did they say? All the claims of "no evidence of collusion with Russia" I've seen have been obvious misinterpretations of carefully crafted statements that say no such thing. I posted information on that a few days ago. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Assuming that's true, it's still a far cry from a nationwide conspiracy.
I certainly don't think all conservatives are evil. Some are. Alas, the evil ones are in charge. BLM is not violent. Some members of BLM are. The vast majority aren't. As to the videos, I'd rather see your evidence of the beater's intent and a discussion of why you generalize such incidents to nationwide conspiracy.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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I should point out that nobody in their right mind will say there is no evidence for a matter the FBI is currently investigating, no matter whether or not they know and no mater what the investigation is based on.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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"5. Bare links with no supporting discussion should be avoided. Make the argument in your own words and use links as supporting references."
OK, I watched the first few minutes. I didn't see, nor have I seen anywhere, any evidence that anyone is trying to remove Trump. What forces have "formed an alliance" to try to remove Trump? No examples of alleged continuous media lies. "No evidence whatsoever" is just a lie of his. There is no solid evidence of an organized "Deep State". It certainly appears that there are a lot more leaks than the usual Washington flood. But the existence of those leaks is not necessarily the result of a conspiracy. It's certainly possible that most or all of them are the result of decent and dedicated workers horrified at the destruction Trump and his gang are wreaking, and IMHO that's what is happening. Mueller's investigation is expanding at least partly because he is finding evidence to suggest criminality, and by law he may not ignore it. I assume that you were incensed when Ken Starr expanded the Whitewater investigation to so many other areas over a period of four years. He repeats the unfounded charge of a conspiracy to remove Trump. The media for the most part is not pushing a story of Trump colluding with the Russians. Personally I feel that there may have been collusion at lower levels nobody with a lick of sense would have brought Trump into it since he can't keep a secret. He has had far more Russian contacts than he's admitted but that in itself is not criminal. That's enough for now...
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I watched WATCH: Here's a Montage of Democrats Confirming They Have ZERO Evidence Trump Colluded with Russia on Hannity's site.
None of them said "evidence does not exist" or any equivalent. In particular James Clapper was clear in his testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee:
quote:{emphasis added} Note that he specifically referred to a counterintelligence investigation and made no mention of any possible criminal investigation.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
No response to my points?
I have already acknowledged the existence of such violence and condemned it. I'll look at some of them.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
The first is indeed horrible.
The second is an Alex Jones (your soul mate, remember?) lie. The altercation was after a traffic incident and had nothing to do with politics. 'Black Mob' Beats White Man for Voting Trump? | Snopes.com In the third I can barely understand the narrator and can't understand any of what's said. The fourth does give some more information, and that does indeed seem horrible. The fifth does recount a crime and alleges anti-Trump influence, followed by a "Clintons killed their way to the top" lie. I don't trust that source at all. The last is certainly heated but not violent. So I'll give you two, maybe three, horrible violent incidents which I condemn are are not evidence of an organized conspiracy. OTOH, Donald Trump Hate And Violence Map.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
We don't need to call it a "conspiracy" to recognize that there's a strong feeling on the Left that violence is just fine against Trump supporters. No, there are a few people on the left who go way overboard and are condemned by all. generalizing to all leftists is not valid. There are some people on the right who go overboard.
added the last as I said because it was interesting, although it isn't about violence, but it certainly shows the ignorance of the BLM man who keeps accusing Trump of racism Trump walks and talks and acts like a racist.
that immigration restrictions are about racism against Muslims and Mexicans when it is no such thing, but obviously somebody on the Left wants that to be the "narrative." Trump has stated his intent explicitly.
We're getting all kinds of diseases in the country now because of the idiot Left that insists on bringing in people who carry them. Another mindless repetition of a lie. Immigrants from Mexico and south are typically immunized at a significantly higher rate than US residents. There is no evidence whatsoever of significant disease transmission by immigrants, legal or not.
Are illegal immigrants bringing ‘tremendous’ disease across the border, as Trump says? UnlikelyVectors or Victims? Docs Slam Rumors That Migrants Carry Disease Lebanonsense: No, Syrian refugees aren't bringing a flesh-eating disease into the United States. Debunking the Myth that Refugees Spread Disease Anything to say about the following, or are you abandoning your claim that "As I said, he showed a couple of Democrats being interviewed on TV news, saying there is no evidence of Trump colluding with Russia.": I watched WATCH: Here's a Montage of Democrats Confirming They Have ZERO Evidence Trump Colluded with Russia on Hannity's site.None of them said "evidence does not exist" or any equivalent. In particular James Clapper was clear in his testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee:
quote:{emphasis added} Note that he specifically referred to a counterintelligence investigation and made no mention of any possible criminal investigation.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Thank you, Faith, for agreeing that nobody has said Trump is not under investigation.
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