Religion or Science - How do they compare?

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It only speaks volumes to those with a an ingrained prejudice against everything I say.

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The fact that you see a truthful and honest assessment as ingrained prejudice also speaks volumes.Honestly assessing the evidence is not punishment. That you say otherwise does say a lot about you. That’s not prejudice, that’s just fact.

Hilariously true to form.

In no way is it punishing your belief to point out that by your own source: Since Rabbi Akiva was born in 50 AD, it is rather unlikely that he would have spoken to Jesus’ stepfather and the name Pappos ben Yehuda does not seem to match that of Joseph - even the father’s name doesn’t match either of the Gospel genealogies.In short, the identification of the Talmud’s Yeshu ben Pantera with the Biblical Jesus is uncertain.That you would object to anyone pointing this out is bad enough. That you would laugh at the idea that there is anything wrong with such an attitude is even worse.

In had assumed that you were able to follow my lead. The split was because the Southern Baptist Church and the Southern Methodist Church endorsed slavery. The claim was not about general Protestant wickedness, but instead about your claim that evil was not an issue with the Protestant church. It was an issue. And of course, I could name other issues like punishing people for witchcraft.

None of which excuses Martin Luther, or allows us to excuse his evil as an "outburst". We are not having a contest, we are pointing out that Protestants and their churches are not blameless. You cannot defend that with, "well look at the Catholics."

It was an issue with SOUTHERN churches, period. LOCAL churches, and with individuals., You can't compare that to INSTITUTIOINAL doctrines. Buncha liberal Nazis.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I think it explains a lot to realize that Luther had given up his Catholic based antisemitism. Too bad he lost his biblical focus when the Jews turned out to be blasphemers of Christ. Of course anti-Semitism persisted among some Protestants, but for the most part the pogroms and the other persecutions have been Catholic. They do have a top notch propaganda mathine going, they can even make it seem like Protestants were behind the Inquisition. In Downton Abbey for instance the Earl complains about the Catholics and then says he wouldn't want to burn them at the stake or torture them on the rack of coruse, as if it was Protestants who had done that and not the Catholics to the Protestants. Other such propaganda can be found in such sources.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Utter and complete BULLSHIT Faith. The Norther Protestant congregations were as racist as their Southern Kissin Kuzins.And ask the Native Americans. It was the Methodist and Baptist and Protestant preachers that put the kids in schools, changed their names, forbade them from speaking their languages or practicing their religions.NO organization has committed more genocide than Christianity.

Golly gosh, you mean the Jews objected to Ben Kokhba who as I understand it had gathered quite a large following of Jews in his day, but didn't complain about Jesus who by 50 AD had gathered a really really huge following, Jesus they called the "son of Mary" to insinuate He was a bastard, Jesus they had accused of being inspired by the devil, Jesus they tried to kill for saying He was God, and Jesus whom they did finally have put to death, asking not for His release but for Barabbas.' And Jesus about whom they started the rumor that His disciples had stolen HIm from the tomb. Na, they had no motive to slander Him in their Talmud. And of course Luther didn't have any provocation from the Jews at all, they were just SO nice about Jesus. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Correct Faith. People saying Jesus was a bastard is never justification for any antisemitism.

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Golly gosh, you mean the Jews objected to Ben Kokhba who as I understand it had gathered quite a large following of Jews in his day,

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No, and obviously so since I said nothing about bar Kochkba.What I said is that the information on Yeshu ben Pantera’s stepfather indicates that he was not the Joseph named in the Gospels as Jesus’ father. He had a different name, a different father and seems to have lived decades later - likely not even born before Jesus’ death.But thanks for the examples of anti-semitism.

Revisionism reigns when fear of retribution is likely.

I didn't say it was.

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Revisionism reigns when fear of retribution is likely.

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Regardless of your opinion the facts are not clear enough to make a certain identification.

But that doesn't stop you from insinuating that I've got the facts wrong, does it?