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I could care less how Trump gets the money from Mexico. What he needs to do is get the actual money from Mexico, and then we can talk about building his wall. What the American public doesn't want is to waste our own money on Trump's Folley.

No one has shown the dossier to be fake. In fact, some of what it details was later found to be true. Just because Hillary paid for it does not make it fake. Hillary paid for REAL information, not fake information. If Hillary wanted fake information they could have sat around a table for a few hours and made it all up which would have saved millions of dollars.Edited by Taq, : No reason given.

Nothing could show the political and philosophical chasm between Left and Right more tellingly than this statement. The Right feels exactly the opposite, that the damage to the nation and to the world has been underway from the Left for decades and reached a destructive peak under Obama, which would have been set in concrete for ages to come if Hillary had won, so that Trump has been a savior from that damage insofar as the Left's endless obstructions have allowed. I was prepared to see my country become a third world cesspool or a police state or both or worse, but instead we got someone who CARES about the nation, we got Trump, and the worst has been turned back for now. If he can get the wall through we will all be SO happy, and we know he is trying, we know he cares, and we love him for that no matter what.
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What damage are you talking about?

Somebody admitted it is fake, somebody who should know. I'm sorry I'm not good at following politics but I've heard this many times from my favorite talk show people, and I don't even know who at the moment, maybe all of them. All anybody here knows is what the Left feeds you, with their spin at full throttle. I hear all that too, how could I miss it, but I also hear from the opposition. You might try it some time.

Repeating lies doesn't make them true. The dossier has been partially confirmed and none of it has been debunked. It was opposition research, which is SOP at all levels of politics. The many indictments, convictions, and guilty pleas have incontrovertibly established conspiracy between Russians and several of Trump's campaign staff, some at very high levels. The only remaining question is if Trump or his family were involved. Personally I think Trump wasn't involved; the Russians are too smart to tell secrets to an incorrigible blabbermouth.The right is frantically trying to spin Trump’s felonies, as attested to by multiple independent witnesses. I don't know where it's going, but it's going somewhere.They are criminal felonies . Period.I know it's anathema to you, but you would be much more successful if you brought up at least some evidence rather than unsupported rants.

The destruction and perversion of the meaning of our Constitution for starters, the denigration of our heritage by Obama and the Left, in fact the hatred of America by the Left that undermines us in the context of world politics, the destruction of our Christian culture. Just a few off the top of my head.

If you are going to accuse me like that you need to have some evidence of your own.I NEVER had the idea he meant that Mexico would pay for it directly. NEVER.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Who? You are good at swallowing Right wing propaganda whole. That's about it. Christopher Steele still stands by the dossier, as does Fusion GPS which is the firm the Clinton campaign hired to do the investigation. This is no different than hiring a private investigator.Your Right wing talk radio nutjobs are simply making that argument that since Hillary paid for it that must mean it is fake. That is all they are going on.Edited by Taq, : No reason given.

Any examples? These are just vague allegations with no specifics.

Nobody "admitted" that any portion of the dossier is fake. Some of it has been confirmed including some within the past few days: Mueller probe shows parts of Steele dossier trueWithout a name and a quote you got nuthin'.

How on earth could anyone have ever thought Mexico would pay for it directly? That makes NO sense whatever, and Trump couldn't have thought it at any point. He could only have meant we'd get the money back and Mexico would be the loser.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/...e4-c381214de1a3_story.html

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Donald Trump says he would force Mexico to pay for a border wall as president by threatening to cut off the flow of billions of dollars in payments that immigrants send home to the country, an idea that could decimate the Mexican economy and set up an unprecedented showdown between the United States and a key regional ally.

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In a two-page memo to The Washington Post, Trump outlined for the first time how he would seek to force Mexico to pay for his 1,000-mile border fence, which Trump has made a cornerstone of his presidential campaign and which has been repeatedly scoffed at by current and former Mexican leaders.

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If Mexico is going to "pay" for the wall, we'll need to collect a few tens of billions that we wouldn't collect without a wall. What's the plan? Trump’s renegotiated NAFTA won't do that, even if it passes as-is (doubtful).

Dossier is officially "unverified" and always has been and that very fact should have prevented it from ever seeing the light of day. No, it's fake, totally trumped up.

Cutting off that flow of money immigrants send to Mexico should pay for it without any other deal being made. And there are other laws that could be passed cutting off what illegal immigration costs us.