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caffeine Member (Idle past 1054 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined:
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It's Heads of Government, rather than Heads of State (with a couple of exceptions for countries like France with funny constitutions).
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
They are the Heads of So it would be like running the US with a council of governors ... Interesting. Who came up with that idea? Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : .by our ability to understand RebelAmericanZenDeist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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caffeine Member (Idle past 1054 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined:
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Interesting. Who came up with that idea? It evolved organically. Long before the Council was a formally defined entity, government leaders in the member states of the European Communities would meet periodically to discuss plans for the functioning of Europe and the direction of future integration. This was formalised with the Maastricht Treaty, which defined three key institutions that would be the pillars of the EU. The Commission is supposed to represent the interests of the Union, the Council the interests of its member states, and the Parliament the interests of its citizens.
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Diomedes Member Posts: 996 From: Central Florida, USA Joined: |
quote: Brexit: Scottish judges rule Parliament suspension is unlawful - BBC News My guess is this will likely be over-ruled by the Supreme Court. But still, another slap in the face to Boris.
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Tusko Member (Idle past 130 days) Posts: 615 From: London, UK Joined: |
Sorry - just visiting again and saw this thread. There is an additional irony with regard to the non-binding nature of the referendum. It was ruled that there were significant irregularities with the vote leave campaign, namely that they spent more than they should have. If this had been a binding referendum, then it could have potentially have been ordered rerun by the courts. However, the courts cannot do so with an advisory referendum.
I hope I got that right. Here's a related article: Brexit: Vote Leave broke electoral law, says Electoral Commission - BBC News Also, you mentioned earlier why there was a problem with rerunning the referendum now to see if people want to leave now we have a clearer idea of the deal we will (or won't) be getting. The argument tends to be that it would be anti-democratic to rerun a referendum before the thing that the first referendum was about was implemented. This would be because if the government didn't like the result they got, they could keep running referenda until they got the result they wanted. My personal take is that the first referendum was anti-democratic. It was just terrible. No supermajority required. No minimum turn-out required. An assumption that remain would win, so no clear idea of what leave might be (which in played into the hands of leave, who ran two independent campaigns promising different things to different people). David Cameron might end up being responsible for one of the most significant political mistakes in living memory.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Boris is still saying that we’ll leave by the 31st despite there being little sign of a deal, and a legal requirement to ask for an extension.
Bercow says that the PM openly defying the law would be a really terrible example But this is Boris:
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Heathen Member (Idle past 1312 days) Posts: 1067 From: Brizzle Joined: |
Parliament: Defiant Johnson faces MPs and demands election - BBC News
A unanimous decision, there was no reason, let alone a good reason to prorogue for 5 weeks. there are numerous calls for Johnson's resignation, even the Brexit party chairman is sayng that Brexit should now be delayed. unprecedented stuff here... Edited by Heathen, : No reason given.
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Diomedes Member Posts: 996 From: Central Florida, USA Joined: |
It's clear Johnson massively overplayed his hand since he became Prime Minister. There is going to be a large amount of turmoil now in British Politics.
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Heathen Member (Idle past 1312 days) Posts: 1067 From: Brizzle Joined:
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Edited by Heathen, : No reason given. Edited by Admin, : Fix code for YouTube video.
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Diomedes Member Posts: 996 From: Central Florida, USA Joined:
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My favorite line in reference to Boris:
"He's the perfect storm of hubris, incompetence, deceit and shit hair!"
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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My favorite line in reference to Boris: "He's the perfect storm of hubris, incompetence, deceit and shit hair!" Reminds me of someone ... by our ability to understand RebelAmericanZenDeist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Diomedes Member Posts: 996 From: Central Florida, USA Joined:
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My favorite line in reference to Boris: "He's the perfect storm of hubris, incompetence, deceit and shit hair!" Reminds me of someone ...
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Heathen Member (Idle past 1312 days) Posts: 1067 From: Brizzle Joined: |
what cheap TV show was Boris involved with?
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vimesey Member (Idle past 102 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined:
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His hair once doubled for Gordon the Gopher when the little rodent was poorly.
Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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vimesey Member (Idle past 102 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined:
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(For our American and other non-Brit friends, please meet Gordon the Gopher):
Edited by vimesey, : No reason given.Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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