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Author Topic:   Could Adam and Eve Smell Death?
doctrbill
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Message 1 of 6 (204023)
04-30-2005 11:34 PM


Hoping you'll approve what I think is an improvement.
Humans have the ability to smell a variety of toxic substances. Our noses are especially good at detecting the unpleasant odors and sometime toxic gasses released from decaying flesh. These include but are not limited to: ammonia, hydrogen sulfide, methyl mercaptan, and putrescine. Practically speaking, and more to the point:
We are pretty good at smelling death.
This seems odd if we are to believe that we were created for a world where death did not exist.
"From a perspective of the literal history of the book of Genesis, there was a perfect world to start withdescribed by God as ‘very good’ (Genesis 1:31)" Answers In Genesis
Into this perfect world, where there was no death, God introduced genetically perfect people:
"When the first two people were created, they were physically perfect. Everything God made was ‘very good’ (Genesis 1:31), so their genes were perfectno mistakes!" Answers In Genesis
The goodness didn't last long,
but it was marred because of Adam’s rebellion. Sin and its consequence of death entered the world that was once a paradise " Answers In Genesis
And, we are told, our genetics have been going downhill ever since:
"God cursed the world so that the perfect creation then began to degenerate, that is, suffer death and decay (Romans 8:22). Over thousands of years, this degeneration has produced all sorts of genetic mistakes in living things." Answers In Genesis
This view does not seem to allow for biological improvements, such as those which might be needed to detect, identify, and give warning of the heretofore unknown odor of death.
The olfactory system is biologically sophisticated; and the ability to smell death has considerable survival value. If our present olfactory system is a deterioration of what went before, then what went before would be even more marvelous. Biology Pages; and Olfaction
If we assume that the couple in the Garden were 'genetically perfect' and that the 'fall' led ONLY to death and decay, then it seems safe to assume that Adam and Eve had the ability to smell death and decay.
If the couple in the Garden could smell death; and if human powers have only deteriorated ever since,
then,
Were Adam and Eve even better suited to smell death than we are?
And what does that imply about God's plan for humanity?
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Edited for spelling, format and some content.
This message has been edited by doctrbill, 05-01-2005 01:48 PM

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Message 2 of 6 (204042)
05-01-2005 2:16 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by doctrbill
04-30-2005 11:34 PM


Which forum, Doc?

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doctrbill
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Message 3 of 6 (204076)
05-01-2005 9:32 AM
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05-01-2005 2:16 AM


I was hoping the all wise administrative staff would know the answer to that.
Let's try Faith and Belief.

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Message 4 of 6 (204121)
05-01-2005 1:20 PM
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05-01-2005 9:32 AM


aaahhhhh whats up, doc?
The all wise staff may know better than I, but as the resident half-wit, I see a bit of biological evolution mixing with faith and belief. What do the rest of my esteemed colleagues think?
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Message 5 of 6 (204122)
05-01-2005 1:30 PM
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05-01-2005 9:32 AM


I'd say either F&B or Misc.
It's a light topic, afterall, when GOD looked on his work he found it was good. Kinda like towns called Fairview.
Yeah, it has a fair view. Not a great view mind you but all in all, I'd say it was a fair view.

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doctrbill
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Message 6 of 6 (204123)
05-01-2005 1:37 PM
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05-01-2005 1:20 PM


It is a difficult call. I had considered locating it in biological evolution but then, as you say, it is also about faith and belief. I doubt one can treat it adequately by limiting discussion to one or the other of these aspects.
And I believe you know how I feel about science versus superstition.
OK Doc...I'll promote it...closing this topic and reopening topic in Faith and Belief--AdminPhat
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