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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
I don't feel like I'm searching for anything, because nothing is missing from my life. quote: You know, I read somewhere that unhappy people tend to try to rain on other people's parades out of misery and jealousy. You poor thing. Edited by schrafinator, : No reason given.
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iano Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
How wonderful. Probably your robust enthusiasm for the wonders of life keeps you from having any unfulfilled needs. It could be too that your sights aren't set very high in which case you can be easily fulfilled and there is nothing boastful at all being said. If ones sights are low then total fulfillment is as natural as the weather. Robin doesn't consider that - sloppy logician that he is.
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
[qs]The poll is limited to the simple question "do you believe in God or possibly in gods?"
There are four ultimately discrete answers:[/b] 1. No = Atheists2. Undecided = Agnostics/Ringo 3. Yes = Theists 4. No comment = DrJones, Jar, and NWR I think that covers all the basics.
All responses have reasons behind them, some of which are easily, if not completely, traced in this forum. Some of the anwers have surprised me. Some are theists that I would have pegged them for Agnostics, and some Agnostics I would have pegged as an atheist, all based on how and what they argue in defense of on this forum. I've learned alot from this poll.
As to your second point, while there may be reasons why one does or does not believe in God, once belief is presumed, there are many ways how one believes in God. There is pretty much only one way how one does not believe in, or is undecided, about belief in God. The 'how' of belief automatically becomes irrelevant. The 'how' of belief, as it is personal and not subject to scientific proof, to paraphrase Einstein, becomes as diverse as the personal characteristics of the beliver, provided one does not become overly enraptured by other personalities, be they living or presume to speak from a position of absolute and unquestioning authority for their interpretation of past events. Therefore it should be no surprise there is a tremendous variety among self-described theists. I was thinking that we could first take this poll which is very generalized, very broad, and then widdle it down by specific belief. I thnk it would be interesting. And the reason, as you pointed out, there is a tremendous variety of self-described theists, who most assuredly, do not agree theologically. I'd be interested in understanding how they all came to their conclusions.
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
THEIST
1. Nemesis Juggernaut 2. Faith 3. Mjfloresta 4. Catholic Scientist 5. Percy 6. Iano 7. Arachnophilia 8. Buzsaw 9. Phat 10. Jazzns 11. Trixie 12. Tal 13. GDR 14. Anglagard 15. Purpledawn AGNOSTIC1. Creavolution 2. Omnivorous 3. Schrafinator 4. MangyTiger 5. Rail Bird 6. Rick JB 7. Inflixion 8. Tusko 9. Ekman 10. ReverendDG 11. U can call me Cookie 12. Wounded King ATHEIST1. Robinrohan 2. Ramoss 3. Subbie 4. Annafan 5. Chronos 6. Corpagyps 7. Randy Feagley 8. Crashfrog 9. Mutty6969 10. CK 11. Chiroptera 12. Michael 13. Nighttrain 14. NosyNed 15. Jaderis 16. Parasomnium 17. Quetzal 18. NeuroCycle 19. Mick 20. Minnemouseus NONE OF OUR BUISNESS1. DrJones RINGO-- IN A CLASS BY HIMSELF1. RINGO (there can only be one Ringo to rule them all) Edited by nemesis_juggernaut, : edit to add Edited by nemesis_juggernaut, : edit to add
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ekman Junior Member (Idle past 700 days) Posts: 21 From: North Carolina, USA Joined: |
quote: And this quote, too:
quote: That would be me, as well. I don't view agnosticism as being "undecided" on the existence of god(s), for me it's more of a disinterested abstinence. I neither believe nor disbelieve, but if pressed I default to disbelief. Edited by ekman, : edited for clarification
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
That would be me, as well. I don't view agnosticism as being "undecided" on the existence of god(s), for me it's more of a disinterested abstinence. I neither believe nor disbelieve, but if pressed I default to disbelief. I would venture to say that most agnostics tend to lean towards atheistic tendencies. When I was an agnostic, I was definately leaning towards atheism, but, I understood that simple principle that I could not disprove a negative. However, there are two people who posted as agnostics who claim they lean towards theism. I have an agnostic friend who leans towards theism as well. I know they are out there, but I believe them to be outnumbered by default atheists.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
I would venture to say that most agnostics tend to lean towards atheistic tendencies. When I was an agnostic, I was definately leaning towards atheism, but, I understood that simple principle that I could not disprove a negative. However, there are two people who posted as agnostics who claim they lean towards theism. Seems to be a lot of leaning going on. At any rate, the practical result of agnosticism is that you behave as though God did not exist.
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kalimero Member (Idle past 2474 days) Posts: 251 From: Israel Joined: |
One atheist please.
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5938 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
kalimero
I will see your atheist and raise you another.
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Quetzal Member (Idle past 5902 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
One atheist please. Would you like fries with that?
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
THEIST
1. Nemesis Juggernaut 2. Faith 3. Mjfloresta 4. Catholic Scientist 5. Percy 6. Iano 7. Arachnophilia 8. Buzsaw 9. Phat 10. Jazzns 11. Trixie 12. Tal 13. GDR 14. Anglagard 15. Purpledawn AGNOSTIC1. Creavolution 2. Omnivorous 3. Schrafinator 4. MangyTiger 5. Rail Bird 6. Rick JB 7. Inflixion 8. Tusko 9. Ekman 10. ReverendDG 11. U can call me Cookie 12. Wounded King 13. Fragallrocks ATHEIST1. Robinrohan 2. Ramoss 3. Subbie 4. Annafan 5. Chronos 6. Corpagyps 7. Randy Feagley 8. Crashfrog 9. Mutty6969 10. CK 11. Chiroptera 12. Michael 13. Nighttrain 14. NosyNed 15. Jaderis 16. Parasomnium 17. Quetzal 18. NeuroCycle 19. Mick 20. Minnemouseus 21. Kalimero 22. Sidelined NONE OF OUR BUISNESS1. DrJones RINGO-- IN A CLASS BY HIMSELF1. RINGO (there can only be one Ringo to rule them all) Edited by nemesis_juggernaut, : edit to add
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
NJ, could I suggest that you change the thread title to something like:
"Poll re: Theist, Atheist or Agnostic. This will make it easy to locate down the road. If you can't change it but would like it changed I can do that for you.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Please do not drag the nice tidy thread off topic by discussing behaviours robinrohan writes: ... the practical result of agnosticism is that you behave as though God did not exist. Many theists also behave as if God did not exist. Edited by AdminNosy, : No reason given. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
NJ, could I suggest that you change the thread title to something like: "Poll re: Theist, Atheist or Agnostic. This will make it easy to locate down the road. If you can't change it but would like it changed I can do that for you. Yes, by all means. I think if that was the header it would catch the attention of more people. I don't think I have the capability to change it, so if you don't mind, that would be great. Thank you Ned.
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AdminNWR Inactive Member |
I made the change - I should have done that when promoting the thread.
I believe you could have changed it by editing the opening post. To comment on moderation procedures or respond to admin messages:
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