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robinrohan
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Message 46 of 149 (233084)
08-13-2005 9:54 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by robinrohan
08-13-2005 9:24 PM


Re: Scene III
For example the "mock on, mock on" comes from Blake:
"Mock on, mock on, Voltaire, Rousseau,
Mock on, mock on, it's all in vain;
You throw the sand against the wind,
And the wind blows it back again."

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Message 47 of 149 (233085)
08-13-2005 10:00 PM
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08-13-2005 9:54 PM


Re: Scene III
robin, that the satire is larded with apt literay allusions is wonderful. The test is that it works on its own terms, whether the reader catches the allusions or not.
I think I have most of them, but I was delighted to learn that what I thought was an early Yeats lyric was Whitman.
What you are doing is fine. Dance with the muse that brung ya.
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robinrohan
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Message 48 of 149 (233086)
08-13-2005 10:01 PM
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08-13-2005 9:51 PM


Re: Scene III
Actually, "The Wizard of Oz."

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Message 49 of 149 (233087)
08-13-2005 10:05 PM
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08-13-2005 10:01 PM


Re: Scene III
quote:
Actually, "The Wizard of Oz."
If you say actually one more time, I shall have to sound my Actual Horn.
Don't make me do that.

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robinrohan
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Message 50 of 149 (233088)
08-13-2005 10:05 PM
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08-13-2005 10:00 PM


Re: Scene III
Jar writes:
Off Topic!(Grrrr)

To tell you the truth, I appreciate the fact that someone reads it.
Thank you.
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Message 51 of 149 (233092)
08-13-2005 10:41 PM
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08-13-2005 10:05 PM


Re: Scene III
Jar, you will regret this--maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.
The world breaks everyone, and afterward many are strong at the broken places. But those it cannot break, it kills.
It kills the very good and the very gentle and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these, you can be sure that it will kill you too, but there will be no special hurry.

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Message 52 of 149 (233096)
08-13-2005 10:54 PM
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08-13-2005 10:41 PM


Re: Scene III
And to rip off Nash---Suppose you were in a bar with the EvC Borgia
And they were coming Torgia

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Message 53 of 149 (233103)
08-13-2005 11:11 PM
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08-13-2005 10:41 PM


Re: Scene III
This sounds very familiar as well... I want to say Hemingway, but I'm bad at associating names with phrases.
Or as I prefer to put it, what matters to me is that it was said, not who said it. (And then I add a harumph just for good measure.)

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Message 54 of 149 (233111)
08-14-2005 1:25 AM
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08-13-2005 10:41 PM


Comments continued....
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Message 55 of 149 (233140)
08-14-2005 10:18 AM
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08-14-2005 1:25 AM


Edit
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Message 56 of 149 (233156)
08-14-2005 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by robinrohan
08-14-2005 10:18 AM


Re: Scene IV, anyone?
The satirist that cannot mock himself,
Nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds,
Is fit for treasons, stratagems, and spoils.
For the quality of mockery is not strain'd,
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest:
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes.
Are you different from the rest of us?
If ye are pricked by some comment, do you not bleet?
Or is satire but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more ...

we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand
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{{{Buddha walks off laughing with joy}}}

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Message 57 of 149 (233157)
08-14-2005 12:03 PM
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08-14-2005 11:56 AM


Sigh....comments continued
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Message 58 of 149 (233164)
08-14-2005 1:38 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by robinrohan
08-14-2005 12:03 PM


RAZD intermezzo
{{in the shakespearian tradition, a troupe of clowns entertains during the intermission, to entertain the restive crowd}}
Center stage: (jcrawford is digging a grave and throws up a skull. Enter RAZD from stage left. Javaman is beside him, wearing a skullcap.)
jcrawford (to himself): "Since Lubenow considers all people to equally share in the common gene pool of all of our human ancestors who didn't descend from African apes, (Aboriginal Africans included) I will only point out that any ... let's see now, how do I get this (quote) box (unquote) into this hole ... ?
RAZD: "Who's skull is that?"
jcrawford (turning): "This same skull, sir, was Yorick's skull, the king's jester."
RAZD: "Alas poor Yorick! I knew him Javaman, a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy: he hath borne me on his back a thousand times; ..."
(Enter John Ponce from the right, holding another skull)
John: "Have you guys examined ALL the evidence with this comparison while considering there is no evidence today that random brain mutations are increasing human intelligence or brain size? Or did you determine that was Yorick just by looking at him?
Look at this Modern Human Austrailian Aborigine skull - Fully Intelligent!
It is very similar to Javaman and Yorick's skulls and, therefore, may be a transitional animal somewhere between an un-mutated hominid guy with a smaller head and someone fully human."
Javaman: This claim is not true. Both myself, in scene 180, and RAZD, more elegantly, in scene 146, have argued that, while one can't make simple correlations within a species, there are clear inter-species correlations between brain size and intelligence.
RAZD: "John, You are making the logical fallacy of the argument from incredulity, and it invalidates your point. We also knew this was Yorick's skull from other previous information. Finally, there is no "non-mutated gene pool" so you'll have to go somewhere else to swim."
John: "Let us ask the peanut gallery which skull is Yorick's and which is an un-mutated hominid guy with a smaller head."
RAZD: "Now you are making the logical fallacy of the appeal to anonymous authority ..."
(Omniverous.. beside himself, enters from the rear, approaches John Ponce)
John (turns towards omni): "Excuse me RAZD, but I must go eat lunch now, I'll be back later"
Omni: "Sorry to tell you this John, but RAZD ate your lunch."
John: "Can I interest you in a lottery ticket?"
(The Pub is becoming quite loud and lively.)
Curtain Falls.
PB edit: We can give our playwright suggestions, yet as this is his topic, lets allow him the right of final revisions to his version.
razd -- no prob -- this was more of an "intermission entertainment" than an actual scene (I added some embellishments as well, thanks )
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robinrohan
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Message 59 of 149 (233190)
08-14-2005 4:58 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by RAZD
08-14-2005 1:38 PM


Re: RAZD Scene IV suggestion-----
Any more use of literary allusions will be reported to the moderators for possible suspensions.
LENGTHY suspensions.

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Message 60 of 149 (233216)
08-14-2005 7:24 PM
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08-14-2005 4:58 PM


Re: RAZD Scene IV suggestion-----
Can I have a triple from {QAsgara\barwench}, pure malt, 12 yr old to go?
(I am a belt and suspension kind of guy)

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