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Coragyps Member (Idle past 765 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
Hey, Buzz! Does Ann have any double-blind studies on "curing cancer"? She has a published policy:
Upon arrival, you will be asked to sign a disclaimer that releases AWI from any responsibility for any health conditions you experience, pre-existing or otherwise. You must be able to care for yourself.
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jacortina Member (Idle past 5115 days) Posts: 64 Joined: |
PubMed notes some studies about Chlorophyll/Chlorophyllin and cancer. It may be that the very fact that it ISN'T absorbed can make it beneficial as it tends to bind to some mutagens/carcinogens to prevent THEIR absorption:
Inhibitory effect of chlorophyllin on PhIP-induced mammary carcinogenesis in female F344 rats - PubMed Inhibitory activity of chlorophyllin on the genotoxicity of carcinogens in Drosophila - PubMed Not all the studies are clear, though, as variance in concentrations can actually PROMOTE carcinogenesis:Promotion versus suppression of rat colon carcinogenesis by chlorophyllin and chlorophyll: modulation of apoptosis, cell proliferation, and beta-catenin/Tcf signaling - PubMed And even when it helps suppress SOME kind of cancers, keeping those carcinogens in the bowels seem to promote colorectal tumors:Chlorophyllin, an antimutagen, acts as a tumor promoter in the rat-dimethylhydrazine colon carcinogenesis model - PubMed Looks like something of a mixed bag. Pretty much like any other one single chemical or compound.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Coragyps writes: What's the big deal with this stuff as compared to, say, collard greens or alfalfa hay? Do you have any data to show it's better in any particular, except as a source of income to you or whoever is selling it? 1. It appears to bring exceptional results for whatever reason.2. I have Ann Wigmore's book and perhaps the careful way it is grown and cut at a certain height at the optimal stage of nutritious benefit has a bearing on the popularity of it. I believe it's cut when about 4 or 5 inches whereas collard greens or alfalfa hay may be harvested at a more mature stage. 3. It may be more easily digested and assimilated by folks who have damaged and weak digestive system etc. The above are just some possibilities that come to mind. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Coragyps writes: Hey, Buzz! Does Ann have any double-blind studies on "curing cancer"? She has a published policy: I have no idea whether she does or not. She's popular with folks who have benefited by her institute methodology which has been around for a long time. Likey she's more concerned about results than doing impressive studies. When terminally ill folks who've been sent home to die by conventional medicine are benefited they couldn't care less whether she's done double-blind studies and such. Perhaps that's why she's operating in Puerto Rico, so she can concentrate more on helping the destitute sick than fighting the buracracy. ABE: The published policy is nothing more than a disclaimer which is needful and reasonable protection, especially when advocating anything alternative to the conventional healthcare establishment. There's nothing unusual about such a precaution policy. Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Perhaps that's why she's operating in Puerto Rico, so she can concentrate more on helping the destitute sick than fighting the buracracy. BS. It is all an attempt to seperate people from their money. Wheatgrass is worthless quackery.
quote:Source Her original idea was biblically inspired. quote:Same source as above. quote:Page not found | Quackwatch Don't you think there would be some published studies if this stuff really worked? They do not seem to be making such outtrageous claims.
quote: Destitute?? The "classes' are not free. It is a money making enterprise it is not some sort of charity. Don't you find it odd that NONE of these alternative medicine places can show any verifiable evidence that their programs work? All they can give is anecdotal evidence. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Theodoric writes: BS. It is all an attempt to seperate people from their money. Wheatgrass is worthless quackery. Come, let us reason together, Theodoric. Which parts more folks from a whole lot more money and which is the more dangerous and risky, prescription drugs having price tags into the hundreds of $$ per dose and having side effects ranging from suicidal tendencies to death or wheatgrass which effects only good side effects and which is relatively cheap compared to prescription drugs? BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 765 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
I'm sure wheatgrass can be cheaper if you avoid going to "schools" in Puerto Rico to learn how to drink tea made from straw. But cowshit is cheaper yet, is frequently made from wheatgrass, and has as much evidence for its efficacy in healing disease as wheatgrass does.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
prescription drugs having price tags into the hundreds of $$ per dose and having side effects ranging from suicidal tendencies to death Prescription drugs have scientific evidence that shows their effectiveness. Do some have drastic side effects? Sure. But there is at least evidence that they work. Wheatgrass is just a bunch of hokum. Show some real evidence for its effectiveness. Gee you can't. Just as I figured. This wheatgrass seminar ain't cheap either. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Theodoric writes: This wheatgrass seminar ain't cheap either. No, it's not. It would likely cost as much as a ride to the emergency room and a couple of nights in a hospital with a three minute doc visit, not counting the pill bill. As to it's effectiveness, the success and demand for the institute's services speaks for itself, not to mention the fact that so many folks who the conventionalists gave up on are helped when they followed the regime. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
not to mention the fact that so many folks who the conventionalists gave up on are helped when they followed the regime. Funny how the only evidence is anecdotal evidence isn't it. Do you ahve any evidence to back up this assertion? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
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this site explain some of the reasons why folks have been benefited by wheat grass. There are numerous testimonies of cancer patients who have benefited by wheat grass out there on the internet if you care to look them up. These are anticdotal since they are not based on science studies. Imo, the number of testimonials out there are reason to lend some credence to the benefits of it. It stands to reason that the amount of clorophyl and other powerful anti-oxidant nutrients in the product is what makes it work. Nonetheless, it would take someone willing to subject themselves to a rigorous diet rigime in order to help or reverse cancer. Anyone whose liver is destroyed would definitely not be able to be healed by any methodology. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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