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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 610 days) Posts: 921 Joined: |
Where did I admit to being wrong? I said I mistakenly said one word in place of another. That is dyslexia if anything. I cannot stand that hateful old man that makes wisconsin look extremely bad. I try to avoid reading his tripe but I made the mistake of seeing it this time.
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
He is probably talking about the tax change that eliminated some of the deductions that we could previously make. For example, in Illinois we lost the ability to deduct state sales and local taxes. As I recall, after that change you could only deduct sales tax if you were in a state without a state income tax.
There were other deductions that we could previously take - I think medical expenses was one - that now were limited. The expenses had to exceed some percent of your income before you could deduct them. I'm not sure of the date of those changes, but I think it was in Reagan's second term.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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I suggest you actually look up dyslexia.
Then maybe sit up all night wondering if there really is a DOG. But what does your failings have to do with the topic which is about yet another politician being elected that has shown he is incapable of examining evidence and coming to a valid conclusion?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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I said I mistakenly said one word in place of another. Yes. But didn't you follow up that mistake by accusing others of misquoting you? Are you saying now that your posts accusing others of misquoting you were not erroneous? Why didn't you check your own post? Nothing wrong with admitting you were wrong. It's actually a sign of maturity. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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foreveryoung writes:
That was completely inappropriate.I didn't realize I said that then. I guess you have never said one word when you meant another huh? liar. This is why you and many others here are such jerks. This was a time when you should have thanked Theodoric for the correction, and you should have apologized for your earlier incorrect statement. Instead, you called him a liar and a jerk. I am well aware that you do not like Theodoric, and that you may well think him a liar and a jerk. Nevertheless, there are times that we should apologize and times that we should thank even those whom we dislike. It is the Christian thing to do.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 610 days) Posts: 921 Joined: |
You don't want to know what I suggest that you should do. Dyslexia is the only word that could come to mind to describe the phenomena I was referring to. I am not going to search through a thesaurus and a dictionary before I post just to satisfy you anal retentive types. I know dyslexia is not saying one word when you meant another but the concept is similar. Evidently most normal people don't know what it means either. Everytime I hear someone mention dyslexia it is always when someone else reverses the order of words in a sentence or puts one letter out of order in a word. It is in that context that I blurted out the word dyslexia because that is all that came to my consciousness in that moment in time. Excuse the hell out of me for being a human being for crying out loud. You people think you are perfect and you thrive on pointing out the minor little mistakes in others. If I was of the same mind as you guys, I could point out your little faults in logic and false knowlege as well but I don't need to act like that in order to build myself up. As for my failings, why does everyone focus on the minutae of my failing when you totally neglect the huge effing logs in your own eyes.
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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 610 days) Posts: 921 Joined: |
What in the world is there to apologize for? I am defending myself from that jerk. He is a miserable cretin. I am only stating facts. I will never retract that. I am on a short leash so I will refrain what else I have to say about that miserable man.
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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 610 days) Posts: 921 Joined: |
Why are you concerned with whether I apologize for accusing some of misquoting me? I did it on accident, unlike others here. When I see people start apologizing to me for their hateful behavior is the moment I might start apologizing for my reactions to their hatefulness.
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Percy Member Posts: 22502 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
dwise1 writes: I am not making anything up. And it wasn't in 1981 that I'm talking about, but rather a few years later. When I did my taxes, I compared it with the previous year. No big changes in salary nor in expenses, deductions, etc. But my taxes literally doubled! But no tax bracket came anywhere close to doubling, not with the 1981 tax act, and not with the 1986 tax act - how do you explain the doubling of your tax bill? Since you say it wasn't the 1981 tax act it must be the 1986 tax act. Here's a link to the 1985 1040A, the tax tables are about 70% of the way through: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-prior/i1040--1985.pdf Here's a link to the 1986 1040A: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-prior/i1040--1986.pdf Look up your tax bracket for each year and see if the rate really doubled. Just for example, for $20,000 in taxable income for a single person the tax bill would have been $3124.10 in 1985, $3047.40 in 1986 and $3344 in 1987. Personally I think the 10% increase from 1986 to 1987 is very steep, but it's nowhere near 100%, but the standard deductions may have gone up, too, and I didn't check that. --Percy
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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The question was "But what does your failings have to do with the topic which is about yet another politician being elected that has shown he is incapable of examining evidence and coming to a valid conclusion?"
The issue is the politician in the OP. Why should anyone that shows they are incapable of making a decision based on the evidence and that allows his or her religious beliefs influence legislation ever be elected or hired for any position that requires decision making? Edited by jar, : fix sub-titleAnyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
But no tax bracket came anywhere close to doubling, not with the 1981 tax act, and not with the 1986 tax act - how do you explain the doubling of your tax bill? You don't have to double the tax rates to double the amount of your tax bill. The tax rate is applied to your income after deductions. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 610 days) Posts: 921 Joined: |
jar writes: Why should anyone that shows they are incapable of making a decision based on the evidence and that allows his or her religious beliefs influence legislation ever be elected or hired for any position that requires decision making?
For one thing, this congressman is not incapable of making a decision based on the evidence. He simply doesn't believe in evolution or the big bang. You make a huge leap in logic here. You haven't given me an instance where this congressman allowed his religious beliefs influence legislation. We all have our beliefs and values. Some have roots in religion; some have roots in various philosophies, some have roots in the way they were raised; some have roots in their culture. You cannot escape making a decision that is not in someway influenced by these beliefs and values. You just have your panties all in wad because he doesn't believe in evolution and the big bang. Get back to me when these beliefs have the potential to cause him to change public policy in a meaningful way.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9199 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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misquoting me Misquoting you? Really? I cut and pasted what you wrote, that is not misquoting. That is quoting. Are you pathologically incapable of admitting you are wrong? How about taking a moment and thinking about what you post before you post it. Look up the words you want to use to make sure they are the correct words. There is a preview button so you can read what you wrote before you post it. That could have saved you from that terribly embarrassing geologist, engineer thing. Kind of a weird mix up of words, but things happen.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
foreveryoung writes:
The accusatory tone of your Message 149 (to Coragyps) and of your Message 157 to anglagard and again inappropriately accusatory of Coragyps.What in the world is there to apologize for? Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Not being able to make evidence based decisions like not accepting the FACT that evolution happened and that the ONLY explanation available for that evolution is the Theory of Evolution shows that he is incapable of reason based on reality and evidence.
The man sits on several important committees including Health, Science and Technology committees. It is not a matter of anyone's beliefs, it is a matter of allowing their personal beliefs to influence decisions. Read his comments about embryology, geology, evolution and you will see that he even admits that he is making his decision based on the Bible and NOT on the evidence. He is making decision based not on science, not on evolution, not on geology but on his FAITH. It might be reasonable to hire him if he was applying for a job as a pastor or minister of some CCoI club chapter but that's about it.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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