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I'll check with some friends who do that kind of work but I think it is the norm that tips are shared with everone, front and back.IIRC, one thing done is the first 10 % (say) is shared and anything over is the servers (or servers and bus ) or whatever is agreed to or mandated by the place.

If they are available and their management allows, I do.Grocery clerks and store clerks are not tip eligible and their management will not allow them to accept tips, but if someone serving me is tip eligible I tip and I generally tip well.In another life I lived on my tips. I have seen plenty of people who, through no fault of their own, are stuck in situations where they only have service positions open to them. This last recession where we had CPA’s, programmers and executives waiting on tables is such a situation.If someone is as financially comfortable as I am and the server has not really screwed up bad, then I tell you to your face, if you do not tip AT LEAST 15% then you are a lousy excuse for a human being. You should be ashamed.

I don't think that would be legal in the U.S.: Tips in the U.S.

Good for you.

Reality check: People do live on minimum wage.Ever tip the janitor who cleans your office? Ever see him/her? There are a lot of "invisible" people working in the wee hours, many of them for next to nothing.Closer to the topic: in the remake of Total Recall, Colin Farrell plays a downtrodden worker who assembles robots.

Well when we get robotics down the only solution would be a communist form of economy. Because the grate majority of workers would no longer be needed as machines will be able to do the work better, cheaper, faster. The only jobs left open will be in programming, science, and organization. just about everything else will be done by robots or computers. So a capitalist system will be unable to function as 90% of people will be out of work and have no money to buy the stuff that robots make.Personally i would love to see this happen today but the fat cats will be fighting this to their last breath, well at least until their greed leads them to this path.All it takes is one to get the dominoes falling as his competitors will be unable to compete with their human workers, they will have to switch to robotics .....

No they dont they live on minimum wage combined food stamps and other forms of socialist handouts Basicaly our taxes go to sponsor minimum wage workers for the cooperation's. Think of it as a subsidy for corporations they dont have to pay their workers as much as we all have to chip in so they dont die of hunger.

Once robots are self-learning, what programming would be needed?

I was going to crack a joke about robots being too logical therefor it takes the twisted logic of a human to give proper religious training/programming, then I remembered the robot preacher on Futurama. Well byte my matte fleshy ass.

We will always need simpler programs, and even if robots are self learning we dont know what creativity if any they would have so we probably still will need humans to come up with apps that for example dont let you text while your drunk.

There's some truth to that but don't kid yourself. People on minimum wage often don't qualifiy for "socialist handouts".

Ned does not have it completely correct, but sharing of tips is a required aspect of working in any food service industry.When I worked in a steakhouse, 10% of my total bar sales was tipped out to the bar, 3 dollars was tipped to the stocker, 5% of my total sales was tipped to a busser, and 1% of my total sales was tipped to a food runner. If I made $180 dollars, I could expect to walk with approximately $100-$120 of that, dependent on how much my guests liked me. The rest goes elsewhere.Now, Ned has it wrong in that these tip outs are not generally shared by the entire staff, because for a restaurant employee to receive tips, they must be classified in a job code as a tipped employee. Cooks, chefs, dishwashers do not fall into this category and are therefore ineligible for tip outs.However, you have an error in thinking about Minnesota being the standard that most states follow. In fact, according to the U.S. Department of Labor, 36 states out of 50 do not pay servers more than 5.00 per hour, although the Federal minimum wage does exist and companies must make up for it if a server's tips do not bring them to that wage. As someone who relied on a tip based income for 9 years, I can tell you that it is not something extra....even in Minnesota. It is culture in the United States that these are tipped positions. In fact, without tips I would not have been able to afford to live off the $2.13 an hour I made in wages when I first started serving. If you want to live in a place where tipping is not appropriate, then it is up to you to go to one of the countries where it is included or the servers are actually well paid. Until then, you feeling like tipping is not necessary is incorrect, ignorant, and rude to those who are relying on that to make a living.Finally, you mention the rude service you receive, well I am not sure about servers in Minnesota (except a couple of them who I know that moved there recently), but most servers I have ever had have been quite excellent, friendly and timely with food delivery. Perhaps the fact that you do not like tipping has gotten around? There have been certain people who I have served where it was guaranteed that they would tip you $0.25 on ten dollars, and that man did not get good service from me because someone who doesn't udnerstand that I work for tips does not deserve my time. So, maybe you have made a name for yourself as a cheap diner in your area...cause guess what, servers talk.As to the topic, I still don't see the applicability of robots in the food service industry (as servers). I would need to see the robots make the correct call in very crazy scenarios that would not be expected (something that happens in restaurants every day) before I would trust it...Like, what if a North American Ringtailed cat had taken up residence inside the restaurant (you will all laugh, but I have seen it), how would the robot compensate for this thing running across its path while carrying a tray with 30 drinks on it? US Department of Labor - Wage and Hour DivisionEdited by Tempe 12ft Chicken, : No reason given.

Big Chicken writes: A very long time ago when I was washing pots in Harvard Square, Cambridge (our fair city), I was astonished that the waitresses gave me a cut of their tips.That was back in the 70's though. Thing may have changed....

Ned was talking about another country. I find absolutely no fault in what he said; it is likely even true for where he lives. In other words, Ned was 100% correct. Lay off. Please show where I said Minnesota was "the standard that most states follow". Learn to read what I actually write, before trying to lay into me about some stupid nonsense that I've never said.Edited by Jon, : No reason given.

Yea i dont get that eligible for tips thing you can tip anyone in my country some people actually tip the shef rather then the waiter. or both lol. But most normal restaurants divide the tips equally among its staff. Not so for high end restaurants a friend of mine got a 500 EUR tip once the customer wanted to eat by the water the waiter serving him was trying to tell him its impossible my friend just grabbed a table placed it by the lake and went for the chairs then served the guy. After he got the tip he showed it to the other waiter and said the costumer is always right if he says he wants to eat on the chimney you put his table on the chimney.