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Jon
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Message 16 of 40 (712278)
12-01-2013 7:20 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by ringo
11-28-2013 11:33 AM


I get my watches for $10 at Walmart.
I used to get my watches at Wal-Mart; then they stopped making the kind I like.
Now I wear a very similar style from KMart (link).
I find it interesting though that almost every watch I see has an analog face.
Perhaps folks who prefer digital are also more likely to just rely on their cell phone (shudder).
But analog is definitely the way to go. I typically judge how early or late I am for something just by glancing at the relative positioning of the hands with no reference to the actual numbers themselves.
It'd be a pain to have to always read the numbers.

Love your enemies!

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Dogmafood
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Message 17 of 40 (712295)
12-02-2013 9:09 AM
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12-01-2013 7:20 PM


It'd be a pain to have to always read the numbers.
Ain't nobody got time for dat!
Must be quite a chore to hold them eyelids open.

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AZPaul3
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Message 18 of 40 (712410)
12-03-2013 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by jar
12-01-2013 8:05 AM


Re: Classics
Ah, but they are just watches, not something to sit and be pretty rather to use and enjoy ...
To you they are just watches. But to your great-great-grandson they are both family and historical treasures of art worthy of the preservation of their original materials and workmanship.
And to his great-great-grandson this precious treasure will be loaned to museums around the world for their displays of ancient technology, fashion and art.
Well, they would have been, except back in the early 2000's someone thought they were "just watches" and refurbished all the original materials and workmanship away.
[Are you feeling guilty, yet?]

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jar
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Message 19 of 40 (712425)
12-03-2013 4:02 PM
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12-03-2013 1:06 PM


Re: Classics
George Washington's axe.
The fountain pen in the OP is a similar case. It too is from the early 40s and when the cork seal on the pistone needed replacement it got serviced.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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AZPaul3
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Message 20 of 40 (712431)
12-03-2013 4:58 PM
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12-03-2013 4:02 PM


Re: Classics
But, a young boy asked, if the handle has been replaced, and the blade has been replaced, it isn’t really George Washington’s axe anymore, is it?
The young boy was smarter than the curator to the curator’s shame. Your great-great-ever-so-great-grandson shouldn’t have to suffer the same embarrassment, should he? At his great-great-ever-so-great grandfather’s hand? Naw, of course not!
Ol’ GGESGGramps wouldn’t do such a thing would he, not to his own kin, his own flesh and blood, his own future posterity.
Oh ... and leave him the pen, too.

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jar
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Message 21 of 40 (712432)
12-03-2013 5:28 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by AZPaul3
12-03-2013 4:58 PM


Re: Classics
Well, ifin he's been raised properly he will be able to distinguish between what is really valuable and what is not.
Watches and pens are just things, tools to be used. Ideas and memories though last and have value.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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AZPaul3
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Message 22 of 40 (712445)
12-03-2013 6:02 PM
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12-03-2013 5:28 PM


Re: Classics
... things, tools to be used. Ideas and memories ...
You are so correct. And when the two combine as in a most wonderful collection of early 20th century watches it is a crime against posterity to not preserve the significance of their utility, their remembrance of the past in their materials and workmanship and the artists’ conceptions of beauty and elegance.
That is not your stomach rumbling because of hunger, jar. That is posterity calling to you.

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Message 23 of 40 (712464)
12-04-2013 3:31 AM


Wait.. people still wear watches!?

  
ringo
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Message 24 of 40 (712496)
12-04-2013 11:23 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by AZPaul3
12-03-2013 1:06 PM


Re: Classics
AZPaul3 writes:
But to your great-great-grandson they are both family and historical treasures of art worthy of the preservation of their original materials and workmanship.
I have some of my father's tools and I know he would want me to wear them out using them and to replace any parts that needed replacing. He'd be disappointed in me if I kept them on a shelf to be admired. He wouldn't have left them to me if he thought I wouldn't appreciate them by using them.
My grandfather would have laughed at the idea of a tool in a display case instead of a toolbox. My great-grandfather probably would have called it a sin.

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AZPaul3
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Message 25 of 40 (712507)
12-04-2013 3:22 PM
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12-04-2013 11:23 AM


Re: Classics
Your father, grandfather and great-grandfather were right. But I would venture to say that all three of them could discern and appreciate the difference between a ball-peen and a Ming Vase. Both, after all, are tools, but to most people there is a wee bit of a difference in the esthetic qualities of the two. While jar's watches are somewhat distant in esthetics from a Ming Vase they are certainly quite distant in esthetics from a ball-peen.
I look with sympathy and sorrow upon those so misfortunate of eye and heart that the reflections of beauty fail to enter the darkened esthetic recesses of their utilitarian-centered minds. With some people it cannot be helped. All their taste is in their mouths. (snoot, snoot)
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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ringo
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Message 26 of 40 (712580)
12-05-2013 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by AZPaul3
12-04-2013 3:22 PM


Re: Classics
AZPaul3 writes:
Your father, grandfather and great-grandfather were right. But I would venture to say that all three of them could discern and appreciate the difference between a ball-peen and a Ming Vase. Both, after all, are tools, but to most people there is a wee bit of a difference in the esthetic qualities of the two.
I'm sure all three of them would pay more for a hammer than a vase. So would I. A tool you use to make your living surpasses mere "beauty".
Unfortunately, in this day and age when people make their livings on throw-away computers, the aesthetics of real life are diluted.

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AZPaul3
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Message 27 of 40 (712789)
12-06-2013 4:45 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by ringo
12-05-2013 10:39 AM


Re: Classics
I'm sure all three of them would pay more for a hammer than a vase. So would I.
I did not suggest they or you would do otherwise, did I.
quote:
... could discern and appreciate the difference ... a difference in the esthetic qualities of the two
How my message got from "appreciate the esthetics of a Ming vase" to "pay more for a hammer than a vase" I cannot follow. It's not like my reference was to making any purchase at all let alone some $3 plastic bud vase from the discount bin at wal-mart, was it.
Unfortunately, in this day and age when people make their livings on throw-away computers, the aesthetics of real life are diluted.
I have no idea what this has to do with my entreaties to jar.
Edited by AZPaul3, : tense

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ringo
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Message 28 of 40 (712827)
12-07-2013 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by AZPaul3
12-06-2013 4:45 PM


Re: Classics
AZPaul3 writes:
How my message got from "appreciate the esthetics of a Ming vase" to "pay more for a hammer than a vase" I cannot follow.
I know I'm often too subtle.
I was disagreeing with you. I and my plebian relatives consider a hammer more aesthetically pleasing than a Ming vase.

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jar
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Message 29 of 40 (712829)
12-07-2013 11:49 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by ringo
12-07-2013 11:40 AM


Re: Classics
Suppose it was a vase from Ming the Merciless?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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ringo
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Message 30 of 40 (712830)
12-07-2013 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by jar
12-07-2013 11:49 AM


Re: Classics
jar writes:
Suppose it was a vase from Ming the Merciless?
I don't think any of my ancestors would have heard of him. I'd be interested in seeing it but I'd still rather have the hammer (not that I need another hammer).

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