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Tangle
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Message 31 of 81 (735984)
08-29-2014 10:43 AM
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08-29-2014 10:28 AM


There is a difference between the two - DoS is an attack from a specific user, DDos is a Distributed attack, usually from a botnet, so you get larger volumes but more importantly the attacks can come in from thousands of different and unpredictable IPs which can't easily be blocked.

That's why I said your hosting company could simply block the single IP at their firewall. They can. Whether they will depends on the T&Cs and your relationship with them.


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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Message 32 of 81 (736023)
08-30-2014 8:20 AM


Server Has Been Rebooted
I experienced the problem myself this morning and have rebooted the server.

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Message 33 of 81 (736024)
08-30-2014 8:33 AM
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Re: Server Has Been Rebooted
EVC was totally unavailable for several hours this morning.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 34 of 81 (736168)
09-04-2014 1:21 PM


More 503s yesterday and today - don't think I'll be using the site to post anymore until the DoS is stopped - I'm losing 1 out of 5 attempts and as I type this I have no clue whether it'll get lost or not.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 35 of 81 (736171)
09-04-2014 1:49 PM
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09-04-2014 1:21 PM


don't think I'll be using the site to post anymore until the DoS is stopped - I'm losing 1 out of 5 attempts and as I type this I have no clue whether it'll get lost or not.

It took me a few years of losing posts (accidental 'Back' button pushes or page refreshes or whatever), before I started typing up every single reply into Notepad and then pasting them into the text box for submission.

I recommend everyone do this, regardless. Its nice to have another copy of your proposal laying around that you can't easily lose.

And with the 'Peek Mode' button, you can easily paste formatted text into the Notepad right from the message you are replying to.


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Message 36 of 81 (736172)
09-04-2014 1:57 PM
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09-04-2014 1:49 PM


Catholic Scientist writes:

It took me a few years of losing posts (accidental 'Back' button pushes or page refreshes or whatever), before I started typing up every single reply into Notepad and then pasting them into the text box for submission.


I just copy every post to the Clipboard before clicking Submit.
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Message 37 of 81 (736175)
09-04-2014 2:04 PM
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09-04-2014 1:57 PM


I just copy every post to the Clipboard before clicking Submit.

If I can't see it with my eyes, then I'm not comfortable just assuming that it is there somewhere.


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Message 38 of 81 (736209)
09-05-2014 8:22 AM
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09-04-2014 1:21 PM


More 503s today -
More 503s yesterday and today - ...

More DOS?


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Message 39 of 81 (736211)
09-05-2014 8:39 AM
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09-05-2014 8:22 AM


Re: More 503s today -
I think now that it was only a coincidence that when I investigated a while back that someone was banging hard on the server at the same time. I don't think it was a DOS attack. The outages that have occurred since then have not been accompanied by any intensive accesses as recorded in the access log file. I am actively investigating.

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Message 40 of 81 (736218)
09-05-2014 12:01 PM
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09-04-2014 1:49 PM


before I started typing up every single reply into Notepad and then pasting them into the text box for submission.

I was using the Notepad technique for a while. I found that some browsers retain your messages when you hit back and others do not. I am currently using Chrome exclusively and I don't lose messages anymore. Even if I close a tab in the middle of typing a message, if I reopen the tab, the text is there.

Perhaps there is some setting that turns this behavior on and off, but I've quit using Notepad for now.


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I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei

If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass


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Message 41 of 81 (736308)
09-06-2014 2:27 PM


Server Being Upgraded Soon
My webhosting company suspects the problem is insufficient RAM. I just posted this announcement:

The server will undergo a hardware update at 3 PM Eastern Time US to increase the amount of RAM. This should fix the problem with intermittent slowness and outages.

I'm not sure how long the site will be down, but installing more RAM is usually a very simple operation, so I would estimate no more than half an hour.


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Message 42 of 81 (736319)
09-06-2014 6:09 PM
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09-06-2014 2:27 PM


Re: Server Being Upgraded Soon
Thank you. Vastly improved loading since.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

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Message 43 of 81 (736320)
09-06-2014 6:39 PM


Thank you sir.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

  
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Message 44 of 81 (736322)
09-06-2014 7:16 PM
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09-06-2014 2:27 PM


Re: Server Being Upgraded Soon
Snipped..

Just thinking out loud. I snipped the ramblings.

Seems okay so far.

Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei

If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass


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Message 45 of 81 (736337)
09-07-2014 4:10 AM
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09-06-2014 2:27 PM


Re: Server Being Upgraded Soon
No 503s so far.....

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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