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Author Topic:   People ARE Mixing the Gospels Together!
Bob Bobber
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Message 143 of 280 (780011)
03-10-2016 11:51 AM
Reply to: Message 142 by ringo
03-10-2016 11:43 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Gen. 1:1, the earth became without form and void. Do a word study on 'without form' and 'void'. Something was going on that earth while it was in the first heaven.

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Message 146 of 280 (780014)
03-10-2016 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 145 by ringo
03-10-2016 11:59 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
It is there. What does your Chapter and Verse say about?

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Message 148 of 280 (780016)
03-10-2016 12:15 PM
Reply to: Message 144 by Faith
03-10-2016 11:59 AM


Re: Let's say their is one Gospel
The issue was not their sins, Israel always had a way to have their sins atoned for. Yahweh gave them a way to have their sins forgiven.
In contrast to the land, Yahweh’s sanctuary can be purified for moral impurity by means of a special sacrifice. The blood of the animal, the blood of the sacrifice is the key to the whole ritual. Blood, the blood that courses through one’s veins, represents the life force; the Noahide covenant, you may not spill human blood. And you may not eat animal flesh that has the lifeblood in it, because the blood is the life and that belongs to Yahweh, that’s holy. 

So the life force is holy, and the life force is in the blood; Leviticus 17:11, repeats the blood prohibition, and then it offers a rationale. For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have assigned it to you for making expiation for your lives upon the altar. Yahweh assigned it to them to use in sacrificial practices. It is the blood as life that effects expiation, purging and atonement. The blood of sacrificial animals is assigned by Yahweh as a detergent, if you will, to cleanse the sanctuary of the impurities that are caused by the sinful deeds of the Israelites.

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Bob Bobber
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Message 149 of 280 (780017)
03-10-2016 12:16 PM
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03-10-2016 12:14 PM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Why are you Poe'in me around. There is no reasoning with a Poe!

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Bob Bobber
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Message 152 of 280 (780022)
03-10-2016 12:23 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by jar
03-10-2016 12:19 PM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
It is there, Gen. 1:1, but then the next verse should be Gen. 2:1.

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Message 154 of 280 (780024)
03-10-2016 12:24 PM
Reply to: Message 151 by ringo
03-10-2016 12:22 PM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
You just refuse to except Gen. 1:1?

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Message 155 of 280 (780026)
03-10-2016 12:26 PM
Reply to: Message 153 by Faith
03-10-2016 12:24 PM


Re: Let's say their is one Gospel
But a ransom for ALL was not testified until Paul proclaimed it, the revelation of the secret, which was kept secret since the world began.

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Message 158 of 280 (780029)
03-10-2016 12:33 PM
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03-10-2016 12:31 PM


Gen. 1:1
What does this mean to everyone?

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Message 160 of 280 (780031)
03-10-2016 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 157 by NoNukes
03-10-2016 12:33 PM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
But it does seems Lucifer was trying to provoke El, just to see what he was made of? Just a thought.

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Message 162 of 280 (780033)
03-10-2016 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 161 by jar
03-10-2016 12:37 PM


Re: Gen. 1:1
Their is your first heaven, because in Gen. 1:2, the earth was without form and void.

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Bob Bobber
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Message 164 of 280 (780036)
03-10-2016 12:52 PM
Reply to: Message 163 by jar
03-10-2016 12:48 PM


Re: Gen. 1:1
Yes it is there. Because in Gen. 1:8, God called the firmament Heaven, here is the heaven we are in now. Gen. 1:1 is the first heaven.

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Message 166 of 280 (780038)
03-10-2016 12:59 PM
Reply to: Message 165 by jar
03-10-2016 12:57 PM


Re: Gen. 1:1
So you believe in a myth, cool.

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Message 168 of 280 (780042)
03-10-2016 1:31 PM
Reply to: Message 167 by jar
03-10-2016 1:27 PM


Re: Gen. 1:1
Clearly I showed the earth in the first heaven (Gen. 1:1). Gen. 1:2 clearly showed the earth flood out, because it was without form and void. Gen. 1:8 clearly shows the second heaven that the has been in.

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Message 170 of 280 (780044)
03-10-2016 1:42 PM
Reply to: Message 169 by jar
03-10-2016 1:34 PM


Re: Gen. 1:1
Not so, let throw some more poker chip out on the table. Ezekiel Chapter 28, this paints a picture of more stuff going on while the earth was in the first heaven.

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Message 172 of 280 (780050)
03-10-2016 1:57 PM
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03-10-2016 1:50 PM


Ezekiel 28:11-15
In Ezekiel 28:11-15, Ezekiel charges that the king of Tyre has overstepped his bounds, because of his wealth; this king deemed his mind equal to a god. Although Ezekiel is telling all this to a Tyrian king, the story Ezekiel is using is neither allegory, myth, legend, nor fable, but literal historical facts set forth, and emphasized by the use of figures of speech. Ezekiel tells in this garden story, that their was an individual that was a once-perfect creature. Ezekiel 28:11b-You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and flawless in beauty.
Yet, all the confusion of thought about this individual, have arisen from taking literally what is expressed by figures, or from taking figuratively what is literal. A figure of speech is never used except for the purpose of calling attention to, emphasizing and intensifying, the reality of the literal sense, and the truth of the historical facts; so that, while the words employed may not be so strictly true to the letter, they are all the more true to the truth conveyed by them, and to the historical events connected with them.

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