Trump's order on immigration and the wacko liberal response

AN IN/SANE AND DANGEROUS REVISIONIST POSITION Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

THIS STUP/IDITY ALONE IS GOING TO DESTROY \AMERICA IF IT IS ACCEPTED.

That's in/sane. THAT DOES NOT APPLY TO NONCITIZENS. NEVERTHELESS WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT DEPRIVING ANYONE WHO HAPPENS TO BE HERE OF ANY HUMAN RIGHTS, BUT WE ARE CERTAINLY WITHIN OUR RIGHTS TO DEPORT THEM IN ANY CASE IF THEY ARE NOT HERE LEGALLY, FOR ANY REASON WHATEVER WITHOUT DUE PROCESS.

"Jurisdiction" doesn't mean "physically within geographical borders," it means "within the power of the law," which may or may not apply to a particular piece of geography, or to any particular persons. As written there is no reason to read it as applying to anyone but US citizens. A person may be within a state's borders without being within its jurisdiction. Applying it to noncitizens is imposed on the law by the courts, who are beyond nuts to make such interpretations.No, what you are calling "our way" has been so revised by legal nut cases over the last century it no longer resembles anything that was originally intended by the Constitution.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

SCOTUS IS AN IDI/OT

I would bet you anything the 14th amendment was not originally intended to apply to noncitizens. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

There should be ample legal jurisdiction already invested in the states to deal with criminal acts by noncitizens, with no need for it to be granted by the Constitution.

There are lots of idi/otic Republicans. Like a lot of those in Congress right now.

No great debate. Just find the evidence.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

It applied to people who were born here.

Sounds like a good plan for a debate but I don't want to debate. If you can produce the evidence just please do so.And if you don't mind I'd rather send the money to you because I'm on so many charity call lists already it's driving me to distraction. You can send it wherever you want. If I win I don't care about the money anyway, just the topic.

Id go with Coyote.

"Persons" was probably used because one of the problems that the amendment addressed was the noncitizen status of some people born in the country, blacks in other words. So that has to be taken into account in this discussion. There is no reason to think that foreign noncitizens were intended.

Mod, I'm afraid I have to sleep for a while, so I won't be able to respond until later. This happens to me a lot these days, sudden sleepiness.

Federal law gives the President the right to determine if there are national security issues involved; others' opinions are not included.